[crosspost] Feb 13th, 2019
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anghraineThe date is purely because I posted various short things on the 13th that don't merit separate crossposts, but I am a completionist.
[warning: fic-spoilery references to canonical sibling incest]
1) “It’s not misogynistic ageism, it’s just that most older women are awful”
Do you … hear yourselves?
If your generalizations encompass the majority of all women, then ... yeah, bye, it's misogyny. And does not cease being so because your cause is just, or whatever the excuse of the day is.
Oh, and "that only happens to the creeps" is bullshit too:
a) It happens constantly just by existing in fandom spaces, often without any justification beyond "lol why are they in fandom? i guess they're allowed if they accept that they're interlopers."
b) "Creepy" has been redefined to mean everything from grooming to "ships my notp"
c) Certain swaths have this idea that bigotry only counts if the victim is sufficiently pure.
No! Bigotry is systematic, and deploying it at anyone reinforces the system. Yes, leftist men's misogyny towards Sarah Palin was Real Misogyny, and while I don't have a lot of concern for her as an individual, I have a TON about the dismissal of misogyny in leftist spaces generally.
That's the thing with trends. When you get obsessed with a single instance over a trend, some reflection about why that specific case is so apocalyptic is in order—because it's reallyyyy noticeable when it only applies to things you dislike.
Anyway, "why is this awful person here at her age" is explicitly an attack on ALL older women in fandom, and fails to criticize that person's specific awfulness at all. It's always gross and kneejerk excuses/goalpost moving don't help anyone.
2) This whole “grad school” thing when I want to write is bullshit.
#it's been snowing and i have to go think about rhetoric >:|
3) Unrelatedly (mostly): I was just re-reading wgdots and … it’s possible that I have a thing for writing people being completely baffled and overwhelmed.
(This seems both general and weirdly specific.)
In wgdots (my long Cesare/Lucrezia S1 AU), it's like ... jadffjk;dfas poor Bernat.
At the moment, in my canon-compliant fic about the development of Elizabeth's feelings at Pemberley: poor Lizzy
In ad astra (Rogue One AU where Jyn, Cassian and Bodhi get trapped on the Death Star): hahahahaha poor Han
But there's always someone who's just all 'what? the? fuck????' at whatever it is that's going on—Bernardo most justifiably so ofc (a Borgia cousin who discovers Cesare and Lucrezia's relationship).
Hmm, there's also always someone who is amazingly chill about the batshit things that are going on. wgdots has Isabel (Bernardo's sister) essentially going "eh" at The Terrible Truth, the Pemberley fic has Mr Gardiner pretty much "Darcy's in love with my niece? Cool. Better check this out. And go fishing :D" while ad astra's Jyn is "oh yeah, avoid the dead body. It's a long story."
4) fradine at Tumblr asked:
What are your thoughts on Mary Crawford's love life before and after the Mansfield Park events?
Hmm. Lots of flirtations before, a bit more selectivity afterwards. I don’t think she’d risk anything more unless she felt very strongly about the person, which it’s… difficult to see happening often, lol. I don’t think she was ever seriously interested in anyone before Mansfield; she seems very ??????????? about it.
It is pretty strongly suggested that she does eventually find someone to equalFanny Edmund, it just takes a long time.
5) I deeply, profoundly appreciate people who tag.
(This was inspired by someone I otherwise respect reblogging a dumbass/infuriating justification for not voting, immediately followed by someone posting SW discourse that I didn't see because she tagged it.)
6) allisonmclaughlin88 at Tumblr asked (much, much earlier—I was on a drafts-clearing spree, which most of these posts were from):
Hello!! I’ve been seeing a lot of posts from that showtime show “The Tudors” and was wondering if you have seen it? And if so what is your opinion on Henry VIII both in the show and historically?
I saw it yeaaaars ago. I remember liking parts of it as television, and sort of rolling my eyes at “but it’s not accurate!” meltdowns (I don’t think engagement with history is insignificant, only that it’s far broader and more complex than simple fidelity). But apart from Natalie Dormer’s Anne Boleyn and one of the young Elizabeth actresses, it didn’t do a whole lot for me. I mostly remember Tudors!Henry screaming a lot.
[warning: fic-spoilery references to canonical sibling incest]
1) “It’s not misogynistic ageism, it’s just that most older women are awful”
Do you … hear yourselves?
If your generalizations encompass the majority of all women, then ... yeah, bye, it's misogyny. And does not cease being so because your cause is just, or whatever the excuse of the day is.
Oh, and "that only happens to the creeps" is bullshit too:
a) It happens constantly just by existing in fandom spaces, often without any justification beyond "lol why are they in fandom? i guess they're allowed if they accept that they're interlopers."
b) "Creepy" has been redefined to mean everything from grooming to "ships my notp"
c) Certain swaths have this idea that bigotry only counts if the victim is sufficiently pure.
No! Bigotry is systematic, and deploying it at anyone reinforces the system. Yes, leftist men's misogyny towards Sarah Palin was Real Misogyny, and while I don't have a lot of concern for her as an individual, I have a TON about the dismissal of misogyny in leftist spaces generally.
That's the thing with trends. When you get obsessed with a single instance over a trend, some reflection about why that specific case is so apocalyptic is in order—because it's reallyyyy noticeable when it only applies to things you dislike.
Anyway, "why is this awful person here at her age" is explicitly an attack on ALL older women in fandom, and fails to criticize that person's specific awfulness at all. It's always gross and kneejerk excuses/goalpost moving don't help anyone.
2) This whole “grad school” thing when I want to write is bullshit.
#it's been snowing and i have to go think about rhetoric >:|
3) Unrelatedly (mostly): I was just re-reading wgdots and … it’s possible that I have a thing for writing people being completely baffled and overwhelmed.
(This seems both general and weirdly specific.)
In wgdots (my long Cesare/Lucrezia S1 AU), it's like ... jadffjk;dfas poor Bernat.
At the moment, in my canon-compliant fic about the development of Elizabeth's feelings at Pemberley: poor Lizzy
In ad astra (Rogue One AU where Jyn, Cassian and Bodhi get trapped on the Death Star): hahahahaha poor Han
But there's always someone who's just all 'what? the? fuck????' at whatever it is that's going on—Bernardo most justifiably so ofc (a Borgia cousin who discovers Cesare and Lucrezia's relationship).
Hmm, there's also always someone who is amazingly chill about the batshit things that are going on. wgdots has Isabel (Bernardo's sister) essentially going "eh" at The Terrible Truth, the Pemberley fic has Mr Gardiner pretty much "Darcy's in love with my niece? Cool. Better check this out. And go fishing :D" while ad astra's Jyn is "oh yeah, avoid the dead body. It's a long story."
4) fradine at Tumblr asked:
What are your thoughts on Mary Crawford's love life before and after the Mansfield Park events?
Hmm. Lots of flirtations before, a bit more selectivity afterwards. I don’t think she’d risk anything more unless she felt very strongly about the person, which it’s… difficult to see happening often, lol. I don’t think she was ever seriously interested in anyone before Mansfield; she seems very ??????????? about it.
It is pretty strongly suggested that she does eventually find someone to equal
5) I deeply, profoundly appreciate people who tag.
(This was inspired by someone I otherwise respect reblogging a dumbass/infuriating justification for not voting, immediately followed by someone posting SW discourse that I didn't see because she tagged it.)
6) allisonmclaughlin88 at Tumblr asked (much, much earlier—I was on a drafts-clearing spree, which most of these posts were from):
Hello!! I’ve been seeing a lot of posts from that showtime show “The Tudors” and was wondering if you have seen it? And if so what is your opinion on Henry VIII both in the show and historically?
I saw it yeaaaars ago. I remember liking parts of it as television, and sort of rolling my eyes at “but it’s not accurate!” meltdowns (I don’t think engagement with history is insignificant, only that it’s far broader and more complex than simple fidelity). But apart from Natalie Dormer’s Anne Boleyn and one of the young Elizabeth actresses, it didn’t do a whole lot for me. I mostly remember Tudors!Henry screaming a lot.
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on 2019-02-19 05:54 am (UTC)no subject
on 2019-03-01 11:10 pm (UTC)And yeah, there really does seem a feeling that we don't know what it's like to be nineteen or whatever, and this attachment to age as a stable identity. I feel like part of it this wider cultural preoccupation (positive and negative) with youth.
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on 2019-02-28 03:34 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2019-03-01 11:14 pm (UTC)