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Oct. 15th, 2026 01:09 pmTOS fandom has some hella takes that, obviously, I disagree with powerfully. And now and then specific fans or small subsets of the fandom have takes that I powerfully agree with, and that is always wildly cathartic (I've had people tell me that they kind of thought they had to be going insane, were doubting their own memory and basic comprehension etc until they tripped over me grumping to myself and were like "oh, so it's not just me!" which is... certainly an experience to have). But because it's such a chatty fandom— that is, people feel moved to directly respond to almost anything with whatever enters their head regardless of relevance, or appropriateness to the subject, or often what seems a basic comprehension of the fact that this is a conversation with a real person, and will strain to come up with something to say even when they obviously don't have anything— occasionally you'll run over responses to even perfectly fine takes that are so phenomenally bad from every possible angle, yet so breathtakingly confident, that you just have to pause to let it sink in.
For me, nothing beats this one:

On one hand, it's just a more open way of phrasing something that's already all over the fandom's extreme weirdness about Kirk (not to mention the truly vile "Patterns of Force") and, sometimes even more, about Shatner. On the other, I try to imagine the level of baseless assurance it takes to look at a second-generation Ukrainian Canadian actor who is completely open about coming from a very Jewish background, and to just say with your whole chest that you keep forgetting he plays a genocide survivor because there's something aggressively not genocide-victim-y about his appearance. I screencapped it so I wouldn't doubt my own memory of just whispering "what the fuck."
For me, nothing beats this one:

On one hand, it's just a more open way of phrasing something that's already all over the fandom's extreme weirdness about Kirk (not to mention the truly vile "Patterns of Force") and, sometimes even more, about Shatner. On the other, I try to imagine the level of baseless assurance it takes to look at a second-generation Ukrainian Canadian actor who is completely open about coming from a very Jewish background, and to just say with your whole chest that you keep forgetting he plays a genocide survivor because there's something aggressively not genocide-victim-y about his appearance. I screencapped it so I wouldn't doubt my own memory of just whispering "what the fuck."












