anghraine: a picture of multnomah falls in oregon: a tall waterfall with a wooden bridge connecting either side (multnomah)
Until I posted about the resuscitation of Voyager 1, my activity bar over on Tumblr was split pretty evenly between responses to a P&P post that had been reblogged by a BNF and various people who are extremely into The Borgias discovering my back catalogue. Before the P&P post reblog, the activity bar was ... like, 90% Borgias reblogs and likes. And good for them, it's still my favorite TV show ever!

In any case, this is probably why I included my brief quasi-epistolary modern US American politics Borgias AU from 2016 in my random list of fics in this post. I did re-read it before finishing that post and had fun immersing myself in all the little details that went into the AU. I'd originally hoped to write more of it, but writing a US politics AU was ... a more difficult prospect after Trump's election and I never did. Still, there's quite a bit that I'd already nailed down and forgotten later.

I did remember that one element of the basic premise is that this version of the Borgia family is not (recently) from Valencia or Italy. Rodrigo is the son of immigrants to the US from Ecuador and rose against adversity to wealth and political power. After serving as a capable Speaker of the House, Rodrigo beats the Republican presidential nominee "Julius Rove" (Giuliano della Rovere) and in the same election cycle, Rodrigo's seat in the House is won by his young nephew César (Cesare, of course). And I remembered that the story was primarily told via excerpts from news headlines and clippings (in fact it's entirely told that way because I never wrote the rest).

Other details I didn't remember:
  • These Borgias are Californians! West Coast, best coast. :D
  • Rodrigo's first VP is Katharine Powers (Caterina Sforza). In the fic, this relationship had yet to go horribly awry, but I had plans for a later disaster.
  • I had a brief aside about Rove delaying a formal concession to Rodrigo. Although the fic was posted in July of 2016, you didn't need foresight to imagine that being a RL concern later, though I certainly didn't anticipate the form it would take in 2021.
  • Vanozza is Rodrigo's ex-wife, Vanessa Gautier, a Canadian actress from Montréal who raised not only their children but the orphaned César as well. I seem to vaguely recall that she was a fairly minor public figure at the time of their divorce, years before the election, known mainly for a well-regarded performance as Empress Theodora in Byzantium, a made-up film that is very different from the actual Byzantium film directed by Neil Jordan (creator of The Borgias; I am pretty sure this was a convoluted shout-out that amused me at the time). Vanessa's very PR-savvy daughter Lucrecia jokes that her first public appearance was in Byzantium (Vanessa was pregnant with her at the time; I'm sure this was a reference to Carrie Fisher's jokes about her "performance" in Tammy, when Debbie Reynolds was pregnant with her).
  • Since then, Vanessa has worked her way into more consistently prominent roles and is now a very well-known movie star in her own right, especially following her role in a massively successful HBO epic fantasy TV series that is this universe's version of Game of Thrones, but based instead on David and Leigh Eddings' Elenium and Tamuli novels (Vanessa plays Sephrenia but brings a bit of Lena Headey-as-Cersei energy to the role).
  • I still kind of love this element (with a very major reservation discussed below) of a bizarro world hit fantasy series based on a completely different book series being embedded into an AU about the Borgias navigating US politics as a Democratic political dynasty along the lines of the Kennedys, but obviously dealing with a very different world and other pressures like, uh, racism.
  • There's also a reference to Lucrezia's rivalry with Sancia d'Aragona in the show; Lucrecia's first actual public appearance was not political but rather, at a big entertainment event with Vanessa. Lucrecia managed to upstage the new superstar Sasha Darby.
  • There's a reference to a photograph of Lucrecia with César at a political event, in which she is of course wearing Valentino (this still amuses me).
So just after that, I was visiting my parents and saw that my dad is re-reading The Belgariad, the most popular of David and Leigh Eddings's fantasy series (but The Elenium is better, fight me). We talked a little about it and of course, I also thought of my random The Elenium adaptation subplot in the Borgias politics AU I'd just been re-reading, and remembered that I'd actually once had an idea inspired by the fic subplot for an Elenium fancast that draws entirely from the actual cast of Game of Thrones. I don't remember the specifics since I never did it, except (of course) Lena Headey as Sephrenia and I think Peter Dinklage as Stragen. Charles Dance as Dolmant??? I kind of like the idea of Nathalie Emmanuel as Ehlana, but there are multiple options.

I should add that David and Leigh Eddings are high-octane problematic figures in SF/F. The Belgariad especially includes a lot of misogyny and racism, and is, let's say, politically ambiguous in general. Moreover, it became well-known after David and Leigh Eddings's deaths that decades earlier, he and Leigh had adopted two children, abused the son, and the children were taken away by the state. The Eddingses separately served a year in prison for the abuse at a time when this was rarely punished at all. The knowledge of this makes all subsequent re-reads feel very surreal, given the prominence in the novels of weird yet idealized kids who turn out to be literal gods. (The linked post also discusses reading the Eddings books, especially the Belgariad-centered ones, in light of this.)

I had personally been very invested in the Eddingses' novels as a teenager/young adult; they were formative experiences for me as a fantasy fan and I have strong feelings about basically every aspect of all of them up to and including The Redemption of Althalus. I kept my collection of Eddings books after finding out what they'd done, since they were dead anyway at that point, but it feels weird to talk about them without mentioning the level of baggage around them. Apparently David was an alcoholic (extremely unsurprising), Leigh was generally violent, and he considered divorce, but never went through with it. Eventually several strokes left her unable to write or speak, though David continued to credit her as co-author, and he himself had increasingly severe dementia and required constant care in his last years while still writing. They had become extremely wealthy and left their millions to medical research and need-based scholarships at Reed College, his alma mater. So the legacy is a LOT and, as I said, it feels odd to talk about their work without acknowledging it.
anghraine: a shot of françois arnaud's face as cesare borgia (cesare (the borgias))
For context, there was a delightful Tumblr thread in which an anon said to the user tariqah:

Thots on the Pope

tariqah responded:

So the pope has thots now

fussybees added:

They're called cardinals I think


alice-exe then said:

crawling all over him like weevils

Then iphiesque superimposed this thread onto publicity shots of Alexander VI (Rodrigo Borgia), Giulia Farnese, Vanozza, and Cesare and Lucrezia in Showtime's The Borgias and said:

good evening borgias fandom

I reblogged it and added:

#SUMMONED LIKE THE KRAKEN #best fandom ever tbh
anghraine: cesare as cardinal kneeling to enthroned lucrezia; text: make me your maria (cesare/lucrezia [maria])


A moodboard for Showtime’s The Borgias, our beloved problematic fave, for [personal profile] elperian!
anghraine: a shot of holliday grainger's face as lucrezia borgia (lucrezia (the borgias))
I reblogged my earlier post from 2 July 2015:



Lucrezia in 1x02, “The Assassin” + Saint Catherine in Pinturicchio’s The Disputation of Saint Catherine, often believed to be modeled by a young Lucrezia Borgia.

Cesare in 2x03, “The Beautiful Deception + Cesare in profile, Caesar Borgia Valentino (~1500-1510).

2020 addition:

[personal profile] elperian got me thinking about them again, and ... *sigh*

(Am I listening to my Borgia playlist right now? I might be.)
anghraine: a shot of holliday grainger's face as lucrezia borgia (lucrezia (the borgias))
I reblogged a gifset of Lucrezia Borgia in The Borgias serenely listening to a chandelier crash (because she placed a flame under the rope holding it to avenge herself against her brother Juan, though it didn't work out as she hoped). I tagged it:

#my girl!!

anghraine: a shot of holliday grainger's face as lucrezia borgia (lucrezia (the borgias))
I reblogged a photoset of various shots of Lucrezia Borgia and Giulia Farnese from The Borgias, showing their camaraderie, and added:

#yesgood

anghraine: a shot of holliday grainger's face as lucrezia borgia (lucrezia (the borgias))
I reblogged a gifset of Lucrezia Borgia from season 2 of The Borgias striding down a hall in a red and gold dress with a plate in her hand, the camera panning up and over her head.

I added: #i love this shot of her #and that gown
anghraine: a shot of holliday grainger's face as lucrezia borgia (lucrezia (the borgias))
I reblogged a gifset of Lucrezia Borgia from season 1 of The Borgias, wearing a brown and gold dress and cute brown hat with a feather and hairnet. She asks the offscreen Paolo, "Am I beautiful, Paolo?"

My tags: #you ARE #i love her hat!!
anghraine: an enraged korra propels herself in the avatar state (korra (avatar state))
Female character meme!

I was tagged by cinefantastiquemitho and princesssarisa.

RULES: name 10 favorite female characters from 10 different fandoms and then tag 10 people.

1. I was just thinking about her, so Mary Crawford for Austen fandom

"No cold prudence for me. I am not born to sit still and do nothing. If I lose the game, it will not be from not striving for it."

2. Aravis of Calormen for Narnia fandom

She was proud and could be hard enough but she was true as steel.

3. Tar-Ancalimë for Tolkien fandom

But she did not refuse the Heirship, and determined that when her day came she would be a powerful Ruling Queen; and when so, to live where and how she pleased.

4. Annabella from ’Tis Pity She’s a Whore (which doesn’t have a fandom per se but shhhh she’s great)

VASQUES: Good sir, be reconciled; alas, good gentlewoman.

ANNABELLA: Pish, do not beg for me.

5. Avatar Korra for Avatar fandom

"You have always been strong, unyielding, fearless."

6. Leia Organa for SW fandom

"Somebody has to save our skins!"

7. Lucrezia Borgia for Borgias fandom

"I will have blood for this."

8. Lessa for Pern fandom

"Time, time, time. It’s always the wrong time. When is now the time?"

9. Moiraine Damodred for Wheel of Time fandom

"Before I let the Dark One have you, I will destroy you myself."

10. Sandrilene fa Toren for Tamora Pierce fandom

"If I tell you my friend is a lady, then you had best start lapping."
anghraine: stock photo from the back of a blonde woman with a loose braid (braid [éowyn])
I reblogged a picture of María Valverde as Lucrecia in "Los Borgia," and said:

I love Holliday, but the Lucrezia in my head is María.
anghraine: vader extending his lightsaber; text: and now for the airing of grievances! (cèsar [il principe])
An anon on Tumblr said:

I've been rereading wgdots cause i wanted to immerse myself in your story again, and I got to the chapter where jeronima passes away, and I basically burst into tears. Not only is that chapter as beautifully written as the others, but my dad had passed away a only few years ago from cancer, and the way you wrote isabel and lucrezia made me think of the day he died, and i couldnt help to start to cry. Your writing is powerful, and while it brought back painful memories, I love it so much ❤️

I replied:

Oh, thank you very much! I’m very sorry about your father.
anghraine: vader extending his lightsaber; text: and now for the airing of grievances! (anakin [grievances])
The date is purely because I posted various short things on the 13th that don't merit separate crossposts, but I am a completionist.

[warning: fic-spoilery references to canonical sibling incest]

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anghraine: cesare as cardinal kneeling to enthroned lucrezia; text: make me your maria (cesare/lucrezia [maria])
An anon on Tumblr asked:

Do you ever regret Showtime's decision to cross the line with C&L in season 3? Or does the story line necessitate it? I thought Jordan was pretty adamant about NOT taking their relationship in that direction.

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aw, shit

Jul. 1st, 2016 08:36 pm
anghraine: vader extending his lightsaber; text: and now for the airing of grievances! (cèsar [il principe])
The Borgias political AU is going to be a thing. I don't know what level of thing, but ... a Thing.

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