anghraine: padmé, coloured sepia; text: indistinct calligraphy (padmé [sepia])
I've never been the audience for "humorous headcanons that don't quite make sense as part of the joke", and I know that my sense of humor is even more muted than usual because of RL stresses. But even before that, I've been put off by this increasingly common genre of fandom joke post that's like ... "I don't remember/know the canon and I'm not going to check but wouldn't it be hilarious if [thing contradicted by about seven different elements of the story]" that then becomes some inescapably viral fanon. Sometimes the OPs don't acknowledge being unfamiliar with the story (though often they do!), but it's usually fairly clear regardless, and the OPs tend to be aggressively indifferent to the story they're ostensibly talking about. They're not so much in the fandom for that thing as in social media fandom, and it feels like the snarky, joking aspect of these headcanons is partly there to justify neither knowing or caring about the story they're talking about.

Additionally, it seems likes there's really no way to interact with this approach that isn't "yep, hilarious, this is canon to me now" or pedantic nitpicking. I don't even add the pedantic nitpicking in most of these, but some fandoms are more prone to it, and when the OP of this kind of post acknowledges the responses at all, it'll generally be with some tongue-in-cheek "explanation" of why their headcanon actually does work that makes no more sense in terms of the story, but which is presumably funny, and forceful enough to be convincing if you're not particularly into the fandom. Some of them, in fairness, will admit that they simply forgot or don't know the story that well and just thought it'd be funny, or "I choose to reject X because my headcanon is funnier, but I know it's there." But more often, I see half-mocking "actually I'm right [but you're a humorless asshole if you actually engage in any way other than agreement]" defenses.

Of course, nobody appointed me god empress of fandom or anything. There's nothing wrong per se with people making posts without being obsessively into the original material or enjoying fandom in a way I don't. But that form of defensive humor really does not work for me. And there's something about an approach to fandom that's dominated by snide, viral BNF humor that doesn't need to make any sense in terms of what it's ostensibly about, that doesn't even need its audience or author to know what it's about beyond the vaguest pop culture osmosis/online memes and is better if they don't, that I find both obnoxious and just kind of ... sad, I guess? I didn't come into fandom in the truly early days, but it was early enough that everyone I encountered had intense feelings about some aspect of the thing they personally had read or seen or heard. Even people with incredibly bad takes seemed to generally be an emotionally invested fan or hater of the actual story.


anghraine: padmé seeming taken aback; text: i have never heard of such a brutal & shocking injustice that i cared so little about (padmé [doesn't give a shit])
I'm cleaning up old tags because I'm finally running up against the max even for an upgraded account. And there was a period around 2012 when I'd started using tags on livejournal/Dreamwidth in a Tumblresque running-commentary-under-my-breath way even though 1) they don't work as well on LJ/DW in that way, because they're automatically alphabetized and 2) I wasn't likely to reuse those specific tags, so it's ultimately kind of a waste.

At the same time, I (obviously) prefer to preserve old posts and such as a kind of record of what I was doing and thinking and saying at the time (really putting the "journal" in livejournal!), so I haven't wanted to delete these Tumblr-style tags. They were part of what I was doing back then!

This is especially glaring for an admittedly very wanky series of posts I put together. For context, the liberal-leaning Star Wars blog fangirlblog had recently posted defenses of slave Leia and Padmé Amidala from an allegedly feminist perspective that were making the rounds at the time. I found both takes ... objectionable. It was difficult enough to put together a coherent response that I ended up simply recording myself reading it and responding in real time, and then transcribed that recording into text, ultimately spread across nine different posts. It's very 2012 in a lot of ways—including my much more overt hostility towards the prequels and the OP's extremely binary concept of gender—but also, I do still think the defenses of slave Leia (and even of Padmé in some ways) are short-sighted at best and deeply rooted in fucked-up concepts of gender at worst. In any case, I decided to preserve my tags before deleting them as organizational tags by making a new post (this one!) with the old tags listed.

Part 1: Intro (touches on gender, representation, diversity, marginalization of women in the OT and PT, and over-reliance on "Watsonian" or in-world explanations for choices made by overwhelmingly male creators in constructing narratives). Tagged: #ahoy false catch-22 #feminism marches on #i try to be fair but i hate the prequels #strong female characters

Part 2: Slave Leia and constructed narratives. Tagged: #fanservice for great justice #reading comprehension failure #rotj makes me cry inside #stories don't come from shangri-la #strong female characters

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anghraine: darth vader stands in front of his son, holding luke's lightsaber hilt (anakin and luke [lightsaber])
me: what if I worked in some Tatooine headcanons into the aasimar fic? mAYBE. at least Anakin comes from this enslaved diasporic people and is fiercely proud of them and of being one of them, esp when people reduce him to his aasimarness (which happens. a lot.)

me: part of me wants Anakin to be a woman, though. and maybe more of the Jedi. maybe ALL the Jedi. WARRIOR NUNS IN SPACE

me: and what if it’s like that old AU idea I had where Palpatine subverts the Jedi instead of slaughtering them outright, and the Empire is generally … like, still bad but less obvious about it. it’d have this sort of patina of sunny pseudo-utopia

me: AND what if Padmé actually didn’t die but escaped with Luke, and lived long enough to gently break the truth of Anakin’s fall to him and he knows but doesn’t tell anyone, including Han

me: who is somehow the POV character for everything

me: …this is an original fic, isn’t it

[ETA 9/22/2023: It very much is and grew into this sprawling universe from this point over the last three years.]
anghraine: carrie fisher and mark hamill grinning widely; text: laughing & half-divine (luke and leia [laughing and half-divine])
ronear on Tumblr sent an ask:

Do you you still take Star war prompt? Anakin is the son of the Force. Which can be considered some sort of powerful eldritch entity. So the Skywalkers are one too. Including all those disturbing and horrifying things that come with them.

I replied:

I’m always happy to talk about SW!

I would say that there are a lot of ways to interpret Anakin’s exact relationship to the Force/conception, and it’s possible to fairly interpret it differently. I mean, I think things like “Shmi was lying” are taking the cheap way out, but other than that.

Personally, I do headcanon that Anakin is effectively the son of the Force and that it creates a slightly … off strain in him and his descendants. (I recently-ish wrote this into a fic!) I also headcanon that this was part of why Padmé was so drained by her pregnancy.

That said, I don’t see the Force as a negative power in the universe overall, so I don’t think it makes them act in disturbing and horrifying ways (Exhibit A: Leia), though it’s one of the many factors at play in their heads (it’s not like Leia is wholly normal).
anghraine: a stock photo of an inkpot with a feather quill in it (quill)

Poll #29556 Shipping Poll 2b
This poll is anonymous.
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 13

According to you, which ship is better?

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Benedick/Beatrice
11 (84.6%)

Anakin Skywalker/Padmé Amidala
2 (15.4%)

anghraine: anakin in rots looking down; text: lost (anakin [lost])
I was thinking some more about SW ages because of a line in the Lucy recording, and going by the scripts (I'm not interested in ~official timelines or w/e):

- AOTC is explicitly 10 years after TPM
- ROTS is an unknown length of time after AOTC, though I'd think several years
- ANH is 18 years after ROTS
- ESB is an unknown length of time after ANH, though I'd think at least a year
- ROTJ is an unknown length of time after ANH, though the fact that Luke gets confirmation from Yoda in it suggests it hasn't been that long IMO, perhaps a year.

Ages:

Obi-Wan = 25 in TPM, 35 in AOTC
Padmé = doesn't actually say, only that it's been 10 years since TPM. I think the promo material said she was 14 in TPM, but that's not mentioned here.
Anakin = about 9 in TPM, about 19 in AOTC.

Luke = 18 in ANH
Leia = about sixteen in ANH, retconned to be Luke's twin, so 18
Han = about 30 in ANH

Okay, now onto some guesswork.

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anghraine: padmé seeming taken aback; text: i have never heard of such a brutal & shocking injustice that i cared so little about (padmé [doesn't give a shit])
There are definitely things I like from this era of SW, but ... uh, really not enjoying the return of the "Anakin probably mind-tricked Padmé into loving and marrying him" theory as anything but asinine fanwank that is wildly incompatible with SW film canon as well as the most boring conceivable approach to Padmé's character in AOTC.

[briefly PT critical under the cut]

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anghraine: padmé, coloured sepia; text: indistinct calligraphy (padmé [sepia])
I reblogged a gifset of Padmé Amidala in blue on Tatooine, and added:

#she is staggeringly beautiful in these scenes

[ETA 11/8/2021: I nearly added something wanky at the time, then decided against it.]
anghraine: luke taking vader's hand; text: balance (anakin and luke [balance])
I reblogged a gifset of the death scenes of the entire Skywalker family (from Shmi to Ben), and added:

...fuck. Their story always had Greek tragedy vibes, but now it's just ... ;_; ;_; ;_;
anghraine: anakin in rots looking down; text: lost (anakin [lost])
I love the Skywalkers, but every single one of them but Shmi is a walking yikes.

People will be like, "Well, MY Skywalker is pure and unproblematic" and it's just, nah, bro. Unless you're talking about Shmi, every single one of them—in-laws included—has had some moment of total fuckery. They are my eternal loves! But some of the posts about them I see are just ... uh, wow. And I have seen those posts about every one of them.
anghraine: anakin against clouds, padmé against greenery; text: heaven & earth (anakin and padmé [heaven and earth])
I think these were just publicity shots or something, but I like these shots of Anakin, Padmé, Leia, and Luke:



It seems suitable that Anakin and Padmé are frolicking in an idyllic field, and Leia and Luke in an icy wasteland.

(Originally posted April 2012)

anghraine: leia comforting luke in anh; text: twins (luke and leia [twins])
I reblogged a photoset that I'd made some time before:



R2-D2 and his people!

anghraine: a photo of emilie de ravin (a blonde, blue-eyed woman); text: lucy (lucy (emilie))
An anon said:

You updated the Lucy AU! Yaay! Is the "Lucy is not fully human" thing a reference to her being the granddaughter of the Force or something? Also it occurred to me that, here, the most important people for Vader are three women: his mother, his wife, and now his daughter

I replied:

You know, I honestly hadn’t thought of that! But yes, it’s very true—Shmi, Padmé, and now Lucy occupy a vast amount of space in his psyche.

[ETA 8/26/2021: they were right about my take on the Skywalkers' origins in that fic!]

anghraine: vader extending his lightsaber; text: and now for the airing of grievances! (Default)
I posted Ch 4 of The Jedi and the Sith Lord. Over a week later, I remembered to crosspost it to DW here.

rain-sleet-snow replied:

M Y GOD WHAT A REVEAL

I said:

ngl, I’ve been pretty much cackling to myself for … several years at what the Great Parental Reveal was going to be.

:D

[tagged: #a truly shocking twist for anyone who has seen the movies :P]
anghraine: concept art of anakin, faded purple background; text: skywalker (anakin [skywalker])
I reblogged a nice comment on my elaborate Avatar/Star Wars plotbunny + the original (May 2013) post, which is:

I’ve written Avatar in the Star Wars ‘verse in varying ways, but what I really want is Star Wars in the Avatar verse. I mentioned some vague ideas before, but what I’d really to either see or get around to writing someday is this:

Air

- The Order of the White Lotus is highly visible and active as a body of warriors. Originally, they were neutral peacekeepers from all four nations, and guardians of the Avatar. Now they’ve largely evolved into defenders/diplomats for the Fire Nation. They also take command of all benders they find as young children and train them in the bending arts and traditions of the Order, but plenty are never found and have to make their own way.

- Qui-Gon Jinn is an earthbender and unorthodox Lotus warrior. Through some various adventures involving his apprentice Obi-Wan (an airbender) and the (disguised, non-bender) Southern Water Tribe chieftainess Padmé, he discovers that the Avatar, believed to be vanished from the earth for generations, has reincarnated as a young boy named Anakin Skywalker. Anakin is a suspiciously golden-eyed slave in the Earth Kingdom.

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anghraine: padmé, coloured sepia; text: indistinct calligraphy (padmé [sepia])
An anon said:

I read your posts about how SW fandom considers Luke as 100% Padmé, and I think it’s due to their relationships with ANAKIN specifically: the faith in Vader’s goodness, the refusal to side with Obi-Wan to kill him, the forgiveness towards his evil deeds (even if she was Force-choked and he lost his hand), the “please come with me” posture, the refusal to Rule The Galaxy™ as father/son or husband/wife, etc. Most people see Vader w/ Padmé and Vader w/Luke and think Luke = 100% Padmé because of it.

I replied:

Yeah, I also think that’s the main reason—reducing their entire characters down to that and ignoring that their similar convictions in Vader’s goodness come from pretty different places and through different reasoning. notbecauseofvictories has a good post touching on it (in the conclusion) here.
anghraine: carrie fisher and mark hamill grinning widely; text: laughing & half-divine (luke and leia [laughing and half-divine])
title: The Jedi and the Sith Lord (19/?)
verse: Lucy Skywalker: my f!Luke AU, following from The Adventures of Lucy Skywalker and The Imperial Menace
characters: Luke/Lucy Skywalker, Anakin Skywalker; Padmé Amidala (background); Anakin/Padmé
stuff that happens: Anakin has Lucy seek visions, and reveals another uncomfortable truth.
previous sections: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen

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anghraine: leia's eyes and padmé's (leia and padmé)
“Anakin is not Leia’s real father” is really quite different from “Padmé is not Leia’s real mother.”

(/represses essay)
anghraine: luke taking vader's hand; text: balance (anakin and luke [balance])

Hot take:

Maybe fandom regards Anakin and Padmé as Luke’s parents because every single character in the films invariably refers to Anakin as Luke’s father, including Luke himself while speaking to Owen and Beru, Owen while speaking to Luke, Owen and Beru speaking to each other, and Luke and Anakin speaking to each other. It might also have something to do with Luke referring to Padmé as Leia’s “real mother.” 

This is not something that Leia does. She means Bail when she says “my father.” But Luke always, always, always means Anakin. 

Bail and Breha chose to make Leia their child. Owen and Beru chose to raise Anakin’s. It’s not the same, and it doesn’t have to be. 

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