Tumblr crosspost (22 December 2020)
Mar. 18th, 2024 04:13 amI reblogged a gifset of Tom Hiddleston as Henry V in The Hollow Crown (Henry V), and added:
#i loved him as hal SO MUCH
#i loved him as hal SO MUCH
Tumblr crosspost (15 November 2020)
Mar. 6th, 2024 12:13 pmI reblogged a gifset of Tom Hiddleston as Hal in the Henry IV, Part 1 section of The Hollow Crown, and added:
#my fave henry v!!! fight me
#my fave henry v!!! fight me
Tumblr crosspost (18 October 2020)
Mar. 4th, 2024 11:21 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
jubaah responded to this:it’s funny bc the stories in those books are so horrible, but… Idk, I genuinely like it hahaha I’m super curious about your notes, though :) Are you gonna write about it?
I replied:
Yeah, it’s a really entertaining read despite all the terrible things! A little rich for my blood now and then, but I like revenge tragedies as a rule, so plenty of it is my sort of thing. I think I’d enjoy it more if I wasn’t rushed and worried about forgetting things tbh.
It’s on my reading list as background for 16th century British lit (which also has some 16th-cent Continental things like Machiavelli and Erasmus), so I’m not sure if it’ll come up or not in writing. It might with Shakespeare et al since it was such an inspiration.
A relevant sample of notes, lol:
[Screenshot of Zotero notes reading:
Pelops
Everyone blames Niobe except her brother, Pelops, who weeps for her. Pelops reveals the ivory in his shoulder; he was cut to pieces by his father (for reasons?) and the gods put him back together but couldn't find that bit, so they used ivory instead.
Procne and Philomela
All the cities send rulers with condolences to Niobe's people, except Athens, which has problems of its own. It's besieged by barbarians, until the siege is lifted by Tereus of Thrace. The grateful king gives his daughter Procne to him in marriage, but the usual marriage deities don't attend—just the Furies. WHAT COULD GO WRONG.]
Tumblr crosspost (9 October 2020)
Mar. 3rd, 2024 04:43 pmI saw D:OS2 described as “grimdark” by a few people, and I was genuinely taken aback even though, thinking about it, it is a pretty grim setting full of terrible people, and you can be one of them if you so choose.
But … it just doesn’t feel that way to me? Maybe because you have the option to play the origin characters as much nicer than ‘standard,’ and maybe because I generally stick to the nicer ones like Lohse and Ifan in the first place. (The Red Prince can die in a fire.) And, while there are a lot of terrible people, there are a lot of semi- and actually decent ones, too.
But also, I suspect it’s kind of like revenge tragedy—I don’t generally care for tragedy, but I love revenge tragedies, because I enjoy the sheer excess and loud personalities and can’t take the misery too seriously. It’s not exactly silly; I do get caught up in what’s happening and attached to many of the characters. But by and large, revenge tragedies are having too much fun to really feel grim.
And Divinity is kind of like that for me. There’s a lot that’s tragic and terrible going on, but it’s just … fun.
Tagged: #like #as soon as i thought about it i saw how it /could/ feel that way to other people #but at the same time it was really surprising #even considering that everything darker than the sweet valley twins is grimdark these days
But … it just doesn’t feel that way to me? Maybe because you have the option to play the origin characters as much nicer than ‘standard,’ and maybe because I generally stick to the nicer ones like Lohse and Ifan in the first place. (The Red Prince can die in a fire.) And, while there are a lot of terrible people, there are a lot of semi- and actually decent ones, too.
But also, I suspect it’s kind of like revenge tragedy—I don’t generally care for tragedy, but I love revenge tragedies, because I enjoy the sheer excess and loud personalities and can’t take the misery too seriously. It’s not exactly silly; I do get caught up in what’s happening and attached to many of the characters. But by and large, revenge tragedies are having too much fun to really feel grim.
And Divinity is kind of like that for me. There’s a lot that’s tragic and terrible going on, but it’s just … fun.
Tagged: #like #as soon as i thought about it i saw how it /could/ feel that way to other people #but at the same time it was really surprising #even considering that everything darker than the sweet valley twins is grimdark these days
Tumblr crosspost (24 September 2020)
Feb. 29th, 2024 09:14 amI get that fandom can be annoying and worse than annoying, but … tbh I have yet to encounter a remotely convincing argument as to why fanfic is intrinsically Not Literature.
Tagged: #i am up to my ears in early modern lit right now and while i wouldn't personally term all derivative literature 'fanfic' #bc i think the term is more specific #a LOT of the time when people say fanfic what they mean is 'anything that reuses pre-existing stories/characters for any reason' #apart from direct adaptations #and when they're arguing about why fanfic is not Real Literature the derivative quality is /why/ it isn't Real Literature #'i'm not saying that can't be good ... i'm just saying it can't be THAT good' mmhmm #and then if you point out that a lot of things generally considered That Good share that same quality #hdu compare yourself with the greats! point proved!!!! #the whole rationale just seems totally incoherent and arbitrary to me #bonus points for 'i can't say why it's different from early modern reinterpretations it just is'
Tagged: #i am up to my ears in early modern lit right now and while i wouldn't personally term all derivative literature 'fanfic' #bc i think the term is more specific #a LOT of the time when people say fanfic what they mean is 'anything that reuses pre-existing stories/characters for any reason' #apart from direct adaptations #and when they're arguing about why fanfic is not Real Literature the derivative quality is /why/ it isn't Real Literature #'i'm not saying that can't be good ... i'm just saying it can't be THAT good' mmhmm #and then if you point out that a lot of things generally considered That Good share that same quality #hdu compare yourself with the greats! point proved!!!! #the whole rationale just seems totally incoherent and arbitrary to me #bonus points for 'i can't say why it's different from early modern reinterpretations it just is'
Battle of titans!
Jul. 29th, 2023 11:41 amPoll #29648 Shipping Poll 3c
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Jun. 9th, 2023 06:57 amPoll #29021 Shipping Poll 1f
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Tumblr crosspost (26 April 2020)
Jan. 24th, 2022 05:32 pmIn response to this post, okionlywanttoreadforever said:
ooh, what’s on the list? I really enjoyed the 16th century drama class I took in college
I replied:
A… lot, but the main chunk:
ooh, what’s on the list? I really enjoyed the 16th century drama class I took in college
I replied:
A… lot, but the main chunk:
- The Alchemist
- Bartholomew Fair
- Volpone
- The Spanish Tragedy
- Tamburlaine
- Edward II
- Doctor Faustus
- The Jew of Malta
- The Malcontent
- Utopia
- Women Beware Women
- The Changeling
- The Revenger’s Tragedy
- The Roaring Girl
- The Art of English Poesy
- The Defense of Poesy
- Shakespeare
- The Devil’s Law-Case
- The Duchess of Malfi
- The White Devil
- The Praise of Folly
- The Prince
- Selected essays of Montaigne
Tumblr crosspost (15 March 2020)
Oct. 26th, 2021 10:39 am“Beware the ides of March!”
—Glorfindel to the Witch-king
—Glorfindel to the Witch-king
Tumblr crosspost (13 October 2019)
May. 17th, 2021 04:29 pmsuddenwildmagic at Tumblr responded to a post I wrote about parallels between P&P and Much Ado About Nothing:
just remembered this post and have to add obligatory <3 <3 because Much Ado/P&P comparison
I replied:
:)))
I once wrote a paper about it, and the entire first paragraph consisted of the history of P&P/Much Ado comparisons, going from 2017 back to an anonymous reviewer in March of 1813 who said that Elizabeth “is in fact the Beatrice of the tale.”
(P&P was published on Jan 28, 1813.)
otoh Shakespeare himself certainly adapted a number of myths, at least (and also wrote historical fiction)
Yes! Actually, that’s what interests me most about Shakespeare’s influence on Austen—if you look at, say, Lear and Mansfield Park (though it’s less pronounced than Much Ado/P&P), the lineage of narrative keeps going back and back. They’re these towering shapers of story, but they’re also working with material that existed for a long time before either of them were born or thought of.
just remembered this post and have to add obligatory <3 <3 because Much Ado/P&P comparison
I replied:
:)))
I once wrote a paper about it, and the entire first paragraph consisted of the history of P&P/Much Ado comparisons, going from 2017 back to an anonymous reviewer in March of 1813 who said that Elizabeth “is in fact the Beatrice of the tale.”
(P&P was published on Jan 28, 1813.)
otoh Shakespeare himself certainly adapted a number of myths, at least (and also wrote historical fiction)
Yes! Actually, that’s what interests me most about Shakespeare’s influence on Austen—if you look at, say, Lear and Mansfield Park (though it’s less pronounced than Much Ado/P&P), the lineage of narrative keeps going back and back. They’re these towering shapers of story, but they’re also working with material that existed for a long time before either of them were born or thought of.
Tumblr crosspost (23 September 2019)
Oct. 27th, 2019 01:29 pmAn anon at Tumblr asked:
Hi! I read your post on Pride and Prejudice and Much Ado About Nothing. And... are you saying P&P is Shakespeare fanfiction?
I replied:
Ah, no. It’s …
Hm. Okay. The thing is, I don’t really subscribe to the idea that ‘derivative work’ and ‘fanwork’ are interchangeable concepts. I do think it’s important to point out that fanworks are not unique in deriving their material from other sources, yet are often treated as uniquely illegitimate for doing so. But for me, fanfiction is bound up in modern fandom. It’s a subcategory of “writing that uses some characters/relationships/etc the author didn’t invent,” not the whole category.
IMO the category as a whole is just adaptation. And that post was totally saying that P&P is a loose adaptation of Shakespeare :)
Hi! I read your post on Pride and Prejudice and Much Ado About Nothing. And... are you saying P&P is Shakespeare fanfiction?
I replied:
Ah, no. It’s …
Hm. Okay. The thing is, I don’t really subscribe to the idea that ‘derivative work’ and ‘fanwork’ are interchangeable concepts. I do think it’s important to point out that fanworks are not unique in deriving their material from other sources, yet are often treated as uniquely illegitimate for doing so. But for me, fanfiction is bound up in modern fandom. It’s a subcategory of “writing that uses some characters/relationships/etc the author didn’t invent,” not the whole category.
IMO the category as a whole is just adaptation. And that post was totally saying that P&P is a loose adaptation of Shakespeare :)
[crosspost] (Feb 2019)
Feb. 25th, 2019 03:43 pmBohemian Rhapsody had its flaws, but damn if the handwringing isn't delicious.
Unrelatedly, the prof I’m shadowing is using clips of The Hollow Crown for his Shakespeare class and ahhhhh I’d forgotten how much I loved that version.
Unrelatedly, the prof I’m shadowing is using clips of The Hollow Crown for his Shakespeare class and ahhhhh I’d forgotten how much I loved that version.
[crosspost] P&P as fanfic
Feb. 16th, 2019 06:42 pmI vagueblogged at Tumblr:
If P&P were to be considered fanfic, it'd be closest to Much Ado About Nothing crossed with Burney's Evelina/Cecilia (not just Cecilia!!!).
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If P&P were to be considered fanfic, it'd be closest to Much Ado About Nothing crossed with Burney's Evelina/Cecilia (not just Cecilia!!!).
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viveperdiemnoctemque at Tumblr asked:
what are your thoughts about the parallels and differences between beatrice/benedick and darcy/elizabeth? obviously, you prefer d/e, but what is it about them or the story they inhabit that makes it better for you? also, any fanfic recommendations? (for both, but i've never seen any much ado about nothing fanfic, so probably p&p lol)
what are your thoughts about the parallels and differences between beatrice/benedick and darcy/elizabeth? obviously, you prefer d/e, but what is it about them or the story they inhabit that makes it better for you? also, any fanfic recommendations? (for both, but i've never seen any much ado about nothing fanfic, so probably p&p lol)
As far as the first goes, my many opinions couldn’t really be confined to a manageable-length Tumblr post, so I monologued about it here. [NB: I would really like to transcribe this at some point, but haven't managed it yet.]
I haven’t really read Much Ado About Nothing fic (at least none that stuck with me), but as far as P&P goes, I have some recs here, here, and here.
attributions and memes
Feb. 19th, 2012 12:47 pmWhen I wrote last year's au_bigbangs, I vaguely referred to two other fandoms within the stories - for the lulz! - and then amused myself by stuffing as many references to as many others of mine as I could shove in. I always meant to do a proper attribution post, but just ... forgot. But now I've remembered! So here they are. (The citations are in white, so feel free to guess if it amuses you.)
( attribution time )
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Unpopular Opinion Friday
Oct. 7th, 2011 02:43 pmMaybe I should just have hatred empowers us as a tag.
It’s rather awkward when you run across conversations you’d really like to be involved in but … you aren’t, and even if it wouldn’t be inappropriate to butt in, it feels sort of pointless. So I’m just going to be passive-aggressive and declare this
UNPOPULAR OPINION FRIDAY
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It’s rather awkward when you run across conversations you’d really like to be involved in but … you aren’t, and even if it wouldn’t be inappropriate to butt in, it feels sort of pointless. So I’m just going to be passive-aggressive and declare this
UNPOPULAR OPINION FRIDAY
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character meme!
Feb. 2nd, 2011 10:46 amGacked from irnan, because ... it's there? Memes are basically the online equivalent of BRAAAAAAAAAINS. So, character meme!
List fifteen of your favorite characters from different fandoms, and ask people to spot patterns in your choices, if they're so inclined.
(1) Fitzwilliam Darcy, Jane Austen
(2) Faramir of Gondor, Middle-earth
(3) Luke Skywalker, Star Wars
(4) Aravis Tarkheena, Narnia
(5) Harry Potter, Harry Potter
(6) Mary Lennox, The Secret Garden
(7) Romana, Doctor Who
(8) Susan Sto Helit, Discworld
(9) The Prince/Hal/Harry/Henry V, Shakespeare
(10) Aziraphale, Good Omens
(11) Dr Gillian Foster, Lie To Me
(12) Sir Percy Blakeney, The Scarlet Pimpernel
(13) Roshaun ke Nelaid (etc), Young Wizards
(14) Belgarion of Riva, David Eddings
(15) Dr Temperance Brennan, Bones
irnan, because ... it's there? Memes are basically the online equivalent of BRAAAAAAAAAINS. So, character meme!List fifteen of your favorite characters from different fandoms, and ask people to spot patterns in your choices, if they're so inclined.
(1) Fitzwilliam Darcy, Jane Austen
(2) Faramir of Gondor, Middle-earth
(3) Luke Skywalker, Star Wars
(4) Aravis Tarkheena, Narnia
(5) Harry Potter, Harry Potter
(6) Mary Lennox, The Secret Garden
(7) Romana, Doctor Who
(8) Susan Sto Helit, Discworld
(9) The Prince/Hal/Harry/Henry V, Shakespeare
(10) Aziraphale, Good Omens
(11) Dr Gillian Foster, Lie To Me
(12) Sir Percy Blakeney, The Scarlet Pimpernel
(13) Roshaun ke Nelaid (etc), Young Wizards
(14) Belgarion of Riva, David Eddings
(15) Dr Temperance Brennan, Bones
