anghraine: a stock photo of an inkpot with a feather quill in it (quill)
I didn’t manage to stick it out and finish the Metamorphoses yesterday (in fairness, I had a three-hour phone call) BUT I just finished it now!! All 470-odd pages.

The summaries of the Aeneid were … well, clearly summaries of the Aeneid, but at least easy to breeze through, the pages arguing for vegetarianism were not breezy but at least unexpected and interesting, and “The Deification of Caesar” was honestly kind of hilarious (but reinforced Augustus == earthly Jupiter with all the complicatedness that entails). And then there’s the conclusion, lol:

if a sacred poet
Has any power to prophesy the truth,
Throughout the ages I will live on in fame.

Well, he’s not wrong!

Tagged: #he has a whole stanza about how he'll be remembered forever and i kind of love it
anghraine: rows of old-fashioned books lining shelves (books)
And so, Achilles, you conquered everyone
But you yourself were conquered by a coward
Who abducted a married Greek woman.

Damn, Ovid.

Tagged: #i mean ... no lies detected
anghraine: a picture of multnomah falls in oregon: a tall waterfall with a wooden bridge connecting either side (multnomah)

I’m going to get through the Metamorphoses today if it kills me. Currently at Book 11 (pg 304 in my edition) and:

“Peleus was fortunate in his son and his wife
And everything else, except for the crime
Of murdering Phocus, his brother.”

Well, except that little thing.

Tagged: #i know that this is not what anyone followed me for and y'all deserve a prize for sticking around

anghraine: a picture of a young woman from the shoulders up; she has wavy chin-length hair and a slight smile (althea)
I ran across the name of my GW2 PC in the Metamorphoses—Althea, who in Ovid’s version is a woman who loves her brothers enough to straight-up murder her son after he kills them in a (very stupid) fight.

(Then she stabs herself and her grief-stricken daughters get turned into guinea hens, because this is the Metamorphoses.)

Tagged: #lalwen vibes tbh
anghraine: an illustration of the greek goddess athena with dark hair (athena)
I’m curious if it’s a translation thing, but there’s a point at which Ovid describes Minerva as ‘blond’ and my entire mental image was just ‘wait, what?’
anghraine: a stock photo of a book with a leaf on it (book with leaf)
More seriously, all of Ovid’s maidens devoted to Diana are making me think of The Canterbury Tales and Emily’s prayer to Diana:

Chaste goddesse, wel wostow that I
Desire to ben a mayden al my lyf,
Ne nevere wol I be no love ne wyf.
I am, thow woost, yet of thy compaignye,
A mayde, and love huntynge and venerye,
And for to walken in the wodes wilde,
And noght to ben a wyf and be with childe.
Noght wol I knowe compaignye of man. 

(Chaste goddess, well you know that I
Desire to be a maiden all my life,
Never would I wish to be beloved or wife.
I am, thou knowest, yet of thy company,
A maid, and love hunting and venery,
And walking in the wild woods,
And not to be a wife and be with child.
I would not wish to know company of man.)

It usually ends badly, though :(

Tagged: #honestly i am not persuaded by the happy ending of the knight's tale either #in a weird way camilla in the aeneid comes out the best #in that at least she gets to live her best life and then get avenged by diana #hmmm #kind of wondering if there's any significance to wostow -> thow woost
anghraine: an armoured woman with a sword against a gold background (éowyn (pelennor))
I’ve been thinking about Diana and Actaeon, which is a grotesque story with a particularly malevolent Diana …… but also the moment where Diana’s nymphs rush over to cover her naked body but she’s just too big

like

I just feel, personally, robbed of a properly hulking Diana

Tagged: #okay i can't use my academia tag for this Content #in my head diana is built like korra but also taller than aragorn
anghraine: an armoured woman with a sword against a gold background (éowyn (pelennor))
Atalanta manages to get a shot in at Diana’s boar, but there is always That Asshole, and this one (Ancaeus) goes:

“All right, boys, let’s find out how much a man’s weapons
Outweigh a girl’s. Leave this to me. I don’t care
If Diana herself protects this boar with her arrows.
I’m taking this animal down, Diana or not!” (8.444-7)

*five minutes later*

Cause of death: boar.

Tagged: #i do appreciate that ovid smacks down misogynistic hubris at pretty much every opportunity #i mean... all hubris. but there is a special flavor to this kind
anghraine: an illustration of the greek goddess athena with dark hair (athena)
Diana:

“This will not go unpunished,” she said to herself.
“Although we may be unhonored, it will not be said
We are unavenged.”

Literally no one is saying that, Diana

Tagged: #asdfjk;adsk there's a guy who prays to apollo to guide his blow against diana's beast and apollo even tries to answer #diana is just FUCK THAT and breaks the iron off his spear #it's terrible but i kind of love her anyway

anghraine: adora from spop, transformed into she-ra, narrowing her eyes in anger (adora (angry))
Back to reading:

Gods can get really angry. (8.323)

no shit, Ovid

Tagged: #i like him by and large and mostly enjoy his running commentaries but sometimes it's just like #REALLY

 
anghraine: choppy water on a misty day (sea)
“Jason and Medea” was delightful, honestly

Tagged: #i love her...
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[personal profile] jubaah responded to this:

it’s funny bc the stories in those books are so horrible, but… Idk, I genuinely like it hahaha I’m super curious about your notes, though :) Are you gonna write about it?

I replied:

Yeah, it’s a really entertaining read despite all the terrible things! A little rich for my blood now and then, but I like revenge tragedies as a rule, so plenty of it is my sort of thing. I think I’d enjoy it more if I wasn’t rushed and worried about forgetting things tbh.

It’s on my reading list as background for 16th century British lit (which also has some 16th-cent Continental things like Machiavelli and Erasmus), so I’m not sure if it’ll come up or not in writing. It might with Shakespeare et al since it was such an inspiration.

A relevant sample of notes, lol:



[Screenshot of Zotero notes reading:

Pelops

Everyone blames Niobe except her brother, Pelops, who weeps for her. Pelops reveals the ivory in his shoulder; he was cut to pieces by his father (for reasons?) and the gods put him back together but couldn't find that bit, so they used ivory instead.

Procne and Philomela

All the cities send rulers with condolences to Niobe's people, except Athens, which has problems of its own. It's besieged by barbarians, until the siege is lifted by Tereus of Thrace. The grateful king gives his daughter Procne to him in marriage, but the usual marriage deities don't attend—just the Furies. WHAT COULD GO WRONG.]

anghraine: an illustration of the greek goddess athena with dark hair (athena)
[personal profile] jubaah responded to this post:

;-; It’s wrong to say “i am a fan” c it’s a horrifying story, but I read it as a young teen and it made lasting impression on me… i have had art of them in my bedroom wall in Brazil since forever

I replied:

Oh, interesting! I do actually like Procne and Philomela (when Philomela is ashamed of looking Procne in the face and Procne is just like, no shame, only VENGEANCE I was 😍), so … :)

[personal profile] jubaah also said:

actually there’s a bunch of mythology stories that were so fucked up that they “stayed” with me forever sbhndjdfn Medea for sure, and, not nearly as gruesome ofc, but Ariadne being abandoned by Theseus in that island also fucked me up forever

I replied:

Yeahhhh. I’ve been taking pretty exhaustive notes on everything bc I don’t know what I’ll forget, but tbh I am pretty sure I’ll remember all three on my deathbed.

anghraine: a photo of green rolling hills against a purply sky (hertfordshire) (herts)
Back to Ovid: just read “Procne and Philomela” and what the fuuuuuck

Tagged: #yeah this wasn't one that showed up in my childhood books for completely understandable reasons #how is someone worse than jupiter
anghraine: an illustration of the greek goddess athena with dark hair (athena)
I’m back to Ovid and reading about Niobe, and it’s like … okay, Apollo and Diana’s vengeance is really, literally, overkill, but also, Niobe was stupid as shit.

Tagged: #haha latona only has two kids who are OLYMPIAN GODS which is practically like not having any kids amirite #latona is like: -and then she said i'm chILDLESS and how am i being INSULTED THIS WAY and- #apollo: mom. it's okay. we'll kill a bunch of people and it'll make you feel better #diana: yeah. what he said. #latona: oh okay then
anghraine: elizabeth accepting darcy's proposal in "austen's pride" (darcy and elizabeth (austen's pride))
I was just sleepily stirring cinnamon into my tea and it was like … okay, better finish grading the projects, then grade the discussion posts, then submit, then … y’know, Darcy/Elizabeth is such a good ship … there are others I love, but nothing really comparable … then I need to get through the rest of the Metamorphoses somehow …
anghraine: an armoured woman with a sword against a gold background (éowyn (pelennor))
diocletianscabbagefarm responded to this post:

I can imagine races like the Genasi as the offspring of minor nature deities like river gods, and Aasimar as ‘olympian’ children

I replied:

Oh, that could work! I was mulling it over, and thinking that a lot of demigods are more like supercharged humans than D&D races, and given how great Human Variant is in a more prosaic way, it might actually fit pretty well.
anghraine: an icon of a young woman with grey eyes and light brown skin, with brown hair piled on her head and falling around her face (althea (djarn))
I reblogged this post and added:



My excellent decision-making process at work!

Tagged: #i initially thought of aasimar as the natural counterpart to demigods #i can see both aasimar and human variant as the nearest approximations of demigods so...

anghraine: vader extending his lightsaber; text: and now for the airing of grievances! (Default)
I was getting pretty tired of Ovid, but there’s nothing like grading to make me appreciate his general murder and mayhem.

Tagged: #i like teaching literature #i do not like assigning grades
anghraine: a photo of green rolling hills against a purply sky (hertfordshire) (herts)
I reblogged this post [cw for rape] and added:

ae;lkdf there’s this “cruel little boy” who reports Proserpina eating the pomegranate, so she can’t go home. She moans, then turns him into a screech owl.

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