Anghraine

I read f_fa's SW threads sometimes, because they can be interesting, but tbh they're so allergic to bad "Jedi Critical" takes that most of them have come around the other side to "the Jedi cannot be criticized for anything, ever, and if you think any of them made any poor decisions at any point with regard to Anakin ARGLEBARGLE GENOCIDE." There's one valiant soul in a recent thread (not me, I almost never actually post there) trying to argue that Obi-Wan chopping off three of Anakin's limbs and leaving him to burn alive under the assumption that he'll eventually die is morally questionable, actually, and the responses are all defensive nonsense.

I honestly find it weird for anyone to come away from the OT with the conviction that Obi-Wan never fucked up with regard to Anakin, but add in the prequels and ... whew.

(I'm kind of curious if there's any association between "well Anakin deserved it tho" and "Obi-Wan only said Luke's refusal to assassinate his father was condemning the galaxy to Palpatine's rule as a tactic, he wasn't actually wrong" and "but telling the truth about Anakin at any point before Luke left for Cloud City would have been super awkward, so it's okay that Luke had no idea he was attempting patricide." Obi-Wan's failures are what make him so interesting!)

(...relatedly, my best friend and I had a long phone call about SW today, as we frequently do, and I stand by our shared opinion that, while there's a lot of interesting material in the prequels-as-they-are, a potentially very interesting alternate approach would have been a narrative that took Obi-Wan as the clear protagonist from the beginning to the end and focused on him as the flawed tragic hero of the piece in a more subtle way than Anakin is.)

I was thinking some more about SW ages because of a line in the Lucy recording, and going by the scripts (I'm not interested in ~official timelines or w/e):

- AOTC is explicitly 10 years after TPM
- ROTS is an unknown length of time after AOTC, though I'd think several years
- ANH is 18 years after ROTS
- ESB is an unknown length of time after ANH, though I'd think at least a year
- ROTJ is an unknown length of time after ANH, though the fact that Luke gets confirmation from Yoda in it suggests it hasn't been that long IMO, perhaps a year.

Ages:

Obi-Wan = 25 in TPM, 35 in AOTC
Padmé = doesn't actually say, only that it's been 10 years since TPM. I think the promo material said she was 14 in TPM, but that's not mentioned here.
Anakin = about 9 in TPM, about 19 in AOTC.

Luke = 18 in ANH
Leia = about sixteen in ANH, retconned to be Luke's twin, so 18
Han = about 30 in ANH

Okay, now onto some guesswork.

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It's always weird to me when people are like ... oh, Obi-Wan and Yoda aren't really wrong about Anakin in ESB/ROTJ, and they aren't really saying Luke needs to kill him, Luke is just mistakenly assuming that's what they mean and misinterpreting their wisdom. He actually did what they wanted!

Meanwhile in ROTJ:

LUKE: I can't kill my own father.
OBI-WAN: Then the Emperor has already won.

Yoda is somewhat more ambiguous (he says Luke has to "confront" Vader, and earlier that the Dark Side forever dominates your destiny), but Obi-Wan is wrong. It's okay. He can be wrong.

Today's my free day, so I just started writing at four and finished at around eleven. :D

title: The Jedi and the Sith Lord (11/?)
verse: Lucy Skywalker: my f!Luke AU, following from The Adventures of Lucy Skywalker and The Imperial Menace
characters: Luke/Lucy Skywalker, Anakin Skywalker (in spirit, though not person); Chirrut Îmwe, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ellex (LX-3)
stuff that happens: Lucy has another chat with Chirrut and faces the truth—from a certain point of view.
previous sections: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten

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An anon at Tumblr asked:

Star wars questions: I've only seen the original trilogy and force awakens so far. And I was wondering - is it ever considered morally right for a Jedi to kill? I would think not, that murder is something only people on the dark side would use. Yet Obi Wan and Yoda seemed to imply that want Luke to kill his father for the greater good etc And I've always been surprised by this. Why do Jedi seem to approve of murder yet not associate it with dark or evil? Unless Jedi don't frown on murder?

My response:

Killing and murder are not the same thing, though I think the Jedi walk a pretty damn narrow line there.

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Which Star Wars Jedi/Sith are you? Obi-Wan Kenobi You’ve managed to train both a great evil and a greater good, not to mention whipping the ass of the coolest looking Sith in the series. However, you do have a few weaknesses, like Count Dooku and a douche bag of a Padawan. Other than that, you are the epitome of class. The accent, the outfit, and your care for those around you is highly admirable. Arguably, you are the best Jedi that ever lived, having owned Maul, Anakin and Grievous, a total of seven lightsabres among the three.

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I am stunned, I tell you. Stunned.

I meant to finish this by/for the fourth, but ... yeah, we know how my scheduling goes. Anyway, back to Obi-Wan's nonexistent corpse.

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I finally caved and activated my tumblr account, since so much of what I do over here is picspamming + memes. But this is my fandom home. Anyway, the account is anghraine, of course.

So, fanvids. I've been meaning to do this for ages, and this isn't all of the ones I've liked, just some that caught my eye. I have a few for other fandoms, too (omg Romana I vids <3 <3 <3), but SW is so heavy on the imagery that it just seems naturally suited to vidding.

Quasi-Recs! (Because I can't keep from complaining about anything, including things I like)

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This one was also written for ladyhadhafang.

title: he was despised and rejected
verse: she asked for "luke and vader" and I set it in my very first AU verse, Ten Facts About Star Wars; prompt: I'd storm heaven for you, if I knew where it was.

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