anghraine: a photo of green rolling hills against a purply sky (hertfordshire) (herts)
I've been thinking about ways in which Austen criticism has often fallen down wrt class analysis. Back in the 90s Julia Prewitt Brown wrote a "review" that is actually a guided tour through the failings of feminist analysis of Austen due to many things, but one of them was a failure of substantive class analysis in terms of gender. But I still see a lot of what she was talking about in both academia and more fandom or pop culture oriented interpretations—I'm inclined to think particularly when it comes from a contemporary US perspective.

I have way more thoughts about this than I have time to articulate, but I think US fans and academics in particular (though not exclusively) struggle to understand class in Austen's novels or other literature of the time in a way that is not simplified and enormously dependent on largely unfamiliar formal or legal categories rather than complex, sometimes contradictory or unpredictable, highly, highly striated structures that a quick consult of population breakdowns or tables of precedence is not going to explain. And at the same time, I think we (speaking as a US American!) often focus on the more (to us) exotic elements of 18th and early 19th-century British class dynamics rather than analyzing those dynamics in terms of class interests. These interests aren't purely financial (the understanding of class priorities purely in direct financial terms also seems very much a US perspective on it—maybe not exclusively again, idk).

Easy example, but: analysis of class in P&P tends to focus overwhelmingly on questions of exact legal status, precedence and large-scale categories (military, clergy, gentry, upper vs lower servants...), and reported income. And those things matter, for sure. But this tends to neglect how the characters perceive their own class interests (and how accurate their perception may or may not be), who their "natural" allies are, what larger social structures they benefit from or fail to benefit from (again, not only financially, though also that), their conflicts and alliances. Anne de Bourgh and Charlotte Lucas likely have either the same or quite similar ranks in formalized terms before Charlotte's marriage (as daughters of knights*) and are just about exact contemporaries, but the class structures around them are very different in ways that extend even beyond Anne's vast inheritance and Charlotte's lack of one. The image of Charlotte standing in the cold wind while a closely supervised Anne talks at her from her phaeton without any awareness of Charlotte's possible discomfort makes this seem especially stark.

This is even more glaringly apparent in something like William Godwin's Caleb Williams, in which the terrifying, relentless extent of aristocratic power over common people is represented by a country squire with six thousand a year. Legally that squire, Falkland, is no less a commoner than Caleb himself (relatedly, every member of the extended Fitzwilliam family appearing in P&P are also legally commoners). But that doesn't tell you anything about the sheer degree of power afforded Falkland and what six thousand a year signifies beyond direct buying power (that is very wealthy for the country gentry of the 1790s; it turns out a major part of his income, significantly, derives from slave plantations rather than his property in England; moreover, Falkland is able to bring power to bear everywhere Caleb goes in a way that only partly involves direct purchases).

I do seriously have to go write other things, but I wanted to get some part of this out of my head before I forget.

*Anne de Bourgh could be the daughter of a baronet rather than a knight, and thus higher-ranking than Charlotte in terms of strict precedence, but a) the distinction in precedence is so unimportant to understanding what she represents in class terms that we aren't told, and b) Sir Lewis is more likely to have been a knight than baronet IMO from what contextual information we do have.
anghraine: a painting of a man c. 1800 with a book and a pen; the words love, pride, and delicacy in the upper corner (darcy (love)
An anon asked:

You’re an INTJ and you accept the common typing of Darcy as an INTJ, right? Well, I’ve just found a few people arguing that Darcy is actually a Sensor, arguing that a real Ni-dom would have better predicted that Wickham would target Lydia or some other young girl, and citing the fact that he misjudges Jane’s feelings for Bingley based on appearances. Would you argue that he’s still an INTJ despite the above, and if so, how?


I replied:

Yes, I’m an INTJ, and yes, I accept (and relish!) the usual INTJ-typing for him.

I’ll say upfront that I like the MBTI, but also have issues with it as a system and haven’t dug into the details for a long time. My friend [personal profile] tree could probably answer this question better than I can.

But personally, I think one of the issues with discussion of it is that people tend to flatten everything about someone into the type and ignore other, individualizing motivations they have. IMO that’s part of what’s happening here.

So, to begin with, it’s less that Darcy did or didn’t intuit that Wickham was dangerous than that, due to upbringing (rather than temperament), Darcy initially didn’t register anything as important unless it touched on his own “family” circle—a circle that is inclusive of his friends and dependents, but not of strangers or simple acquaintances. Once Wickham wasn’t on his radar, eh.

With regard to Jane, we’re told that Darcy wanted Bingley to marry Georgiana, and that this factored into Darcy's involvement in the whole situation, even though he tried to keep it from affecting his judgment of Jane. I think the pretty clear implication is that he failed.

But the thing I find interesting about Darcy is that, despite his pride, and despite his biases, his judgments about people’s underlying characters are right a lot more often than you’d expect. He’s not wrong about Mrs Bennet and the younger girls. He rightly has reservations about Mr Bennet. He, also rightly, considers Mr Collins lucky to have married Charlotte, even though he barely knows either of them. He’s right that Elizabeth and Jane are concerned with propriety and excludes Jane as well as Elizabeth from his condemnation of the family in general. 

And I don’t think these judgments are really following from considered observations that have eventually led him to a conclusion (sometimes he thinks so, but IMO he’s already reached his conclusions). They’re fast, influenced by both his general beliefs and by quick, subconscious observations coming together. What gives him the appearance of a more deliberate, straightforward thought process, I think, is his need to account for the new information he keeps accumulating after reaching a judgment. He will adjust his early conclusions to make all the data work, even though changing his mind troubles him.

Basically, he’s someone who has good intuitive judgment of character, but gets so caught up in his own ideas and thoughts that he sometimes misses what’s right in front of his face, though his need to keep integrating all information he receives usually keeps him from going too far astray. As I said, I’m no MBTI expert, but that just doesn’t sound like an ISTJ at all to me. I think Ni+Te makes a lot more sense.

(That said, I do think that a lot of readings of Darcy sound pretty ISTJ-ish, very much including academic ones. I just don’t think the character himself is.)

Tagged: #i saw a gifset the other day with him as istj and i was just like ... lol no #maybe in the movie i guess but canon darcy? no

anghraine: illustration of hooded luke; text: born to fight (luke [born to fight])
For no particular reason, some of my fave characters I headcanon as aro-ace:

- Luke Skywalker, #1 space ace always and forever

- Obi-Wan Kenobi genuinely does not get what all this fuss is about

- Tar-Telperiën gets it but does not give a single fuck

- Boromir, her true heir

- Charlotte Lucas!

- Emily from “The Knight’s Tale”; just leave her alone, y’all

- Mary Lennox, who is a kid but never changes in this regard

- Trisana Chandler :D

Tagged: #i love them all :) #there are some characters where i'm tempted to lalala at some aspect of canon and imagine that way (moiraine! aredhel!) #but these are the ones where i genuinely read them that way #(don't @ me about expanded universes)
anghraine: the standard art of female commander shepard from mass effect (an armored soldier with red hair and pale skin) (shepard)
Snowflake Challenge promotional banner with image of ice covered tree branches and falling snowflakes on a blue background. Text: Snowflake Challenge January 1-31.

And we're back with the Snowflake Challenge! #8 is:

Talk about a current fannish project (fic, art, vid, crochet, funko pop village) (that you are creating or enjoying).

If you've been reading my DW over the last few weeks, you know what it's going to be: I'm working sloooowly on a Mass Effect/P&P AU with Elizabeth as Commander Shepard Bennet (a technologically savvy sniper and victor of the battle of Torfan who is very committed to only thinking of the past as it brings her pleasure) and a crew of various P&P characters, including:
  • Janani Hackett, a human gunnery chief who saw terrible things on Eden Prime but stubbornly sticks to her ideals;
  • Illia T'Arzi (Darcy), an arrogant asari scientist whose real motives are never as transparent as Elizabeth would like;
  • Sharra Lukarian (Charlotte), an exasperated turian security officer who finds a future on board the Normandy;
  • a young quarian, Jori'Zanah (Georgiana), who is just trying to prove her worth and bonds with Illia;
  • George Wickham, an Alliance lieutenant and reasonably skilled biotic trained in an asari-run initiative to help young biotics from other species. Definitely trustworthy!
I've written a little of it and I'm determined that this time will be different and I won't post it as a WIP on AO3, I'll just keep poking at it in my spare time until it's either finished or not posted there at all. (I will definitely put bits of it here so I don't internally combust, lol.) Not sure of the ultimate length because, even just going with ME1, there are a lot of moving parts that I'm still figuring out. But it's very exciting!
anghraine: a shot of daisy edgar-jones in vaguely period dress; text: elizabeth bennet (elizabeth [daisy])
I posted the next chapter of Love, Pride & Delicacy at AO3 here. I wanted to cover the [redacted] and [redacted], but that nearly wraps up the main Hertfordshire section, so we should get to Kent and the Catherines next chapter.

/fingers crossed
anghraine: a shot of simone ashley from 'bridgerton'; text: catherine darcy (catherine [simone])
I did do some other things yesterday and today, but I also bulldozed through Ch 2 of Love, Pride & Delicacy. It's mostly going through canon stuff, but there is one prettyyyyy major consequence of the AU in it!
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An anon said:

I'm sorry if you've posted about this before, but what are your thoughts on Lizzy Bennet Diaries?

I replied:

No problem! I talked about it here and here (and a few other places, but I think I mostly repeated myself). [Tumblr links]

The short version is that I think the first half is creative and interesting, though Lizzie was always off in some important ways, and Charlotte and Lizzie’s relationship in particular is well-developed and charming. The second half is pretty awful IMO, I think in part because it becomes more slavish to the novel while also not really getting it.

anghraine: darcy kissing elizabeth's hand after their engagement in "austen's pride" (darcy and elizabeth (engagement))
An anon asked, in response to some collective wishful thinking:

Who would you cast in the new pride and prejudice adaptation???

I replied:

Oh, I’m terrible with fancasting, sorry! It makes me feel old, lol, but I don’t really know most actors except the really big names (who I wouldn’t want for P&P).

I do think it’s important that, apart from parental figures, the cast basically runs from 15 to 30. P&P is fundamentally about young people, and I think that should be reflected in the casting. Elizabeth, Bingley, and Jane are in their early twenties. Mr Collins, Charlotte, Darcy, and Wickham are closer to 25 than 35. The teenage girls should be teenage girls.

I would really prefer casting where Jane, Darcy, and Wickham are very conventionally attractive while Elizabeth is more ordinary-looking. I’d also like to escape the tendency to use blondness/thinness as coding for personality.

Otherwise … I imagine there are a lot of options, really.
anghraine: watercolour of jane austen; text: intj (jane austen (was an intj))
I didn't sign up for [community profile] month_of_meta , but I did want to do something, preferably several somethings, as they occurred to me. A lot of this is probably familiar to my f-list (I originally did it on Tumblr), but I think it's worth repeating a few dozen times :)

disclaimer: it doesn’t mean your fic is terrible badwrong if you don’t do these things or that nobody likes it or that your fic is even not good or that I am a perfect Georgian-period Austen fanwriter who has followed this to the letter from seventeen onwards, it’s just stuff that makes me (and most of my friends, but don’t worry, I’m not a BNF), more likely to read. Also, I tried to list things that are helpful for fic based on any of the novels, but the examples are from P&P since that’s like 95% of the fandom.

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Days 5 & 6

Oct. 14th, 2012 06:56 pm
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I'm a little behind, but I spent seven hours at the mall yesterday, so I don't feel I'm slacking that much! These ones are both totally obvious, anyway.

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Title: First Impressions (1/13, 2/13)

Fanverse: First Impressions

Blurb: A reimagining of Pride and Prejudice: how would the story have gone if Darcy were a woman and Elizabeth were a man?

Pairings/warnings/assorted notes: Darcy/Elizabeth, Jane/Bingley, others; genderswap!

Length: 36,470 words (thirteen chapters; finished)

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Chapter One )
Chapter Two )
 
anghraine: vader extending his lightsaber; text: and now for the airing of grievances! (lady susan)
I think we can all agree that it's incredibly annoying when fen bash characters for things that only exist in their special fennish copies of the books/movies/TV shows/comics/whatever -- flaws that don't exist/are exaggerated to the point of ridicule, things we're never told they did, random stuff the fen read in some fanfics somewhere, and generally symptoms of You Fail Reading Comprehension Forever.
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I actually meant to talk about heteronormativity in Austen fandom, but I don't think I could stay awake long enough to even begin to sum up the epic issues there.  Especially since my perspective is necessarily tinted by my grey-coloured glassesblah blah blah )

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Title: Saviour

Fanverse: canon-compliant, c. Empire

Blurb:  Leia hears him.

Pairings/Warnings: none

Length: 104 words

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We all have a personal canon -- the X that exists in our heads, with all the little additions and details our minds supply.  Sort of like fanon, but for one person instead of a weird fandom virus.  So, for Pride and Prejudice, this is mine:
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I've been poring over P&P, searching for letters for the present draft, and considering how to recreate --er, everything -- in the next.  For me, fanfic is just analysis in narrative form.  (Crossed that out because analysis is awesome.  And mixing the interpretative experience with the creative is also awesome.)  Bad fanfic, as opposed to sheer bad writing, is bad analysis.  By its nature it comments on the text - e.g., an AP says "this could have worked too! (and maybe better)," an AU says "in this situation, the character(s) would have acted like this," a prequel says "this could have happened before the story" and so on. 

The same goes for my fics, of course, and the ones I dislike the most tend to be the ones where I go "... you know, I don't really believe this myself."  All fiction calls for willing suspension of disbelief.  Fanfic too!  And if the suspension cords start breaking all over the place, it's my fault.  

So, since this is my first attempt at a fully alternate-storyline P&P fic, I've been reading P&P.  Over and over.  Seeing what leaps out, etc etc.  And as I've been planning and writing, some ideas have leapt out, which I find mildly interesting.

thinky stuff )

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