anghraine: elizabeth singing beneath darcy's portrait in "austen's pride" (elizabeth (the portrait song ii))
themalhambird responded to this post:

#this is interesting #although if you look at early modern english drama - Shakespeare's stuff #Johnson's #Middleton and others #i feel like the idea of marriage being at least in part about romantic ties is pretty clear

I replied:

Re: your tags—yeah, the idea that romantic marriage was not really a concept until The Rise of the Companionate Marriage™ is very easy to disprove in literature and even history, which is one of the problems with it. But I think it’s pretty clear that the concept as it manifested in, say, the mid-nineteenth century was shaped by quite different cultural norms and assumptions than in the late sixteenth/early seventeenth, and that romantic marriage as the dominating force of all family life was something that, while never unknown, grew very much more prevalent over time.

themalhambird responded:

#neat! #thanks for the clarification :D
anghraine: vader extending his lightsaber; text: and now for the airing of grievances! (Default)
Angst is in scare quotes because it's just silly.

But anyway, I have this argument about how:

1) Historical context is profoundly important to consider when engaging with early modern literature and
2) This lens should not take precedence over the internal elements of a text and
3) Historicist critics should not only attend to the powerful influence of cultural context on early modern literature but also to the effects of critics' own cultural contexts, cultural anxieties etc on their literary analysis and their understanding of the periods they study and
4) It is not actually possible to understand your present "historical moment" and its impact on you with the same perspective you have on an era long past like early modern England because of uhhhh the nature of linear time and
5) You should still try.

The angst is that my first phrasing was "This is not actually possible because of the limitations of the space-time continuum" and then I was like "I don't think this is the project for referencing space-time or even the limitations of linear time lmao" and then I was like "I guess I could just reference 'human' limitations" and then I was like "but does that obscure the matter of chronological perspective that I'm trying to get at" and then I was like "this is a tangent of a tangent about at least trying to put in a modicum of critical thought about how you might be affected by your own culture and preconceptions so you're not a 21st-century version of the 1890s critics whining about the indelicacy of early modern drama..."

Now I kind of want to put the space-time continuum back.
anghraine: a close shot of catra from she-ra, a girl with cat ears, heterochromia, and long hair (catra)
Over at Tumblr, the main women's wrongs poll finished. After 4,464 votes (easily my most voted upon poll ever), the top four results were:

1) Clytemnestra from the Oresteia (19.5%)
2) Carmilla from (Le Fanu's) Carmilla (16.4%)
3) Catra from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (15.3%)
4) Cersei Lannister from ASOIAF (10.7%)

C is the letter of choice for beloved morally dubious female characters, apparently!

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