anghraine: a man with long black hair and a ring on his hand (faramir [hair])
colorwheels14 responded to this post:

My style is probably not what you’re looking for, and I see this is really about you wanting to be able to draw. But I’ve been coming back to painting now that I’ve got a tablet and had time to play with digital art. Do you have something you want me to try? I start teaching again next week, so I certainly couldn’t give you any timeline or even say it would happen in a timely manner.

I replied:

Oh wow, thanks! There are so many things rolling around my head that I’ll have to think for a bit, but that is super nice, whatever the timeline.

[Later addition on Jan 11th:]

It's probably pretty predictable, but my suggestion/request would be Faramir in Byzantine!Gondor dress (but with the canon long black hair!)

colorwheels14 replied on the same day:

Excellent! I'll let you know when I get something done that I'm happy with. :D

I responded:

Thank you very, very much!

colorwheels14 replied:

You're welcome, I've been thinking, and I have ideas! But I also have a question-- do you associate any colors with Gondor/Faramir? It's been a while since I read the books and need to do it again. Also, warning: I teach art history (esp. medieval!), so Byzantine for me brings to mind lots of mosaics, icons, and textiles. ;)

[The rest of the conversation took place over PMs and email.]
anghraine: a picture of a wooden chair with a regal white rod propped on the seat (stewards)
sunshine-states responded to this post:

Would that make Imperial Rome Numenor?

Possibly, though it could also be early (or earlier) Gondor. Tolkien says of it:

In the south Gondor rises to a peak of power, almost reflecting Númenor, and then fades slowly to decayed Middle Age, a kind of proud, venerable, but increasingly impotent Byzantium.

He also says that in ROTK:

we come to the half-ruinous Byzantine City of Minas Tirith.

Tagged: #to be fair he also described contemporary gondor as italian and egyptian so it's not just one thing #but byzantine gondor is definitely within the range of his descriptions!

anghraine: a picture of grey-white towers starting to glow yellow in the rising sun (minas anor)
It’s a day that ends in Y, so I’m thinking about Byzantine Gondor again

Tagged: #someday i WILL commission faramir and éowyn in byzantine robes in the 'white lady of rohan' scene #it's not today (i have too many ocs i want lol) but it will someday happen
anghraine: a shot of an enormous statue near a mountain from amazon's the rings of power (númenor [meneltarma])
I reblogged this Byzantine-themed illustration of Tar-Míriel and tagged it:

#HELLA #tar míriel #the only final monarch we acknowledge in THIS house
anghraine: a man with long black hair and a ring on his hand (faramir [hair])
Not to harp on the same points eternally, but…

Tolkien denied that using Old English to represent the language of the Rohirrim meant they are functionally old English, but at the least they seem to be roughly northern European. OTOH, he very heatedly insisted that Gondor is not northern European and compared it at varying points to Italy, the Byzantine Empire, and ancient Egypt. In particular, he described Minas Tirith as analogous to Rome and Byzantium (which one depends on the context).

Nothing is 1:1 in Middle-earth, but those are at least the closest inspirations.

And sometimes I wonder about … aesthetics, you know? Not just horses vs trees, but say—Éowyn and Faramir’s wedding in Rohan, with Éowyn in her Eorling gown and Faramir and perhaps Lothíriel et al in Byzantine Gondorian robes, and all the different hairstyles and different musical traditions and so on. And like, is the starry mantle a sort of whatsit … chlamys? What about hairstyles/pieces? Does Aragorn switch from Ranger gear (whatever that looks like) to robes like Justinian’s?

Or … I don’t know, but I’m just curious about what the contrast between Rohan and Gondor could look like. 

Tagged: #i am genuinely thinking of commissioning faramir/éowyn art that really shows a contrast between their backgrounds and cultures #there's a lot of pretty art but i think the generic medieval conception of rohan and esp gondor touches quite a bit of it

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