Tolkien posts, March (Tumblr)
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anghraineFor posterity!
March 7th:
I just saw ‘Andustar’ and ‘Minas Anor’ and ‘Calenardhon’ on the LOTR on Prime thing, and can’t lie, I went from mild interest to excited terror in the space of about two seconds.
MY PEOPLE! NO YES I DON'T KNOW
Okay, what if it's the Last Alliance? That would be okay, and potentially cool. But wait, what if they fuck up Isildur? It's really easy to fuck up Isildur. What if it's ~men are weak~ bullshit? What if w h a t i f
'Welcome to the Second Age' are you KIDDING ME
On the 18th, an anon asked:
I just noped out of a fanfic after Boromir arrived at Rivendell, heard someone talking about "periannath" and wished Faramir were there to translate these strange Elvish words for him. Because what even is Gondorian Sindarin?
I replied:
We just don’t know, anon. If only Tolkien had repeatedly shown random Gondorians using it. :\
(Honestly, I've seen the whole idea of Boromir not speaking Sindarin manyyyy times. And it's ... people are going around Minas Tirith all 'bro, there's a halfling prince here now!' in Sindarin. Soldiers are chatting in Sindarin. But the Captain-General of Gondor? Apparently not.
It's especially bizarre because it's so weird linguistically, and JRRT struggled to justify it, yet he went out of his way to include it ANYWAY. Just because. These days I just imagine Boromir pulling a Daenerys and announcing he speaks Sindarin while ships explode in the background.)
sexyroguejedi responded:
I could see Boromir pretending not to speak it just to listen to gossip and stuff. People speak more freely if they think you can’t understand.
I said:
Sindarin is openly spoken on the streets of Minas Tirith. It’d have to be a very elaborate pretense.
(I suppose it's possible (though imo uncharacteristic) if he was surrounded by people who knew nothing about Gondorian society, but at the very least Gandalf and Aragorn would know better. Gandalf's visited and Aragorn lived there for years.)
On the 31st, in relation to a fic snippet I wrote about Éowyn and her Númenórean grandmother Morwen of Lossarnach, I said:
IDK I'm interested in how Éowyn is so deeply defined by her identity as 'maiden of the Rohirrim' and explicitly describes herself as non-Númenórean, yet has these ties. We don't know anything about her relationship with Morwen, say. Maybe Morwen died young and Éowyn never really knew her, but I choose 'no' to more tragic mothers, so!
Also, like ... apparently Éomer is ~6'6" because of Morwen. I profoundly love the idea of Thengel returning grumpily to Rohan with his three tiny children and this towering wife.
March 7th:
I just saw ‘Andustar’ and ‘Minas Anor’ and ‘Calenardhon’ on the LOTR on Prime thing, and can’t lie, I went from mild interest to excited terror in the space of about two seconds.
MY PEOPLE! NO YES I DON'T KNOW
Okay, what if it's the Last Alliance? That would be okay, and potentially cool. But wait, what if they fuck up Isildur? It's really easy to fuck up Isildur. What if it's ~men are weak~ bullshit? What if w h a t i f
'Welcome to the Second Age' are you KIDDING ME
On the 18th, an anon asked:
I just noped out of a fanfic after Boromir arrived at Rivendell, heard someone talking about "periannath" and wished Faramir were there to translate these strange Elvish words for him. Because what even is Gondorian Sindarin?
I replied:
We just don’t know, anon. If only Tolkien had repeatedly shown random Gondorians using it. :\
(Honestly, I've seen the whole idea of Boromir not speaking Sindarin manyyyy times. And it's ... people are going around Minas Tirith all 'bro, there's a halfling prince here now!' in Sindarin. Soldiers are chatting in Sindarin. But the Captain-General of Gondor? Apparently not.
It's especially bizarre because it's so weird linguistically, and JRRT struggled to justify it, yet he went out of his way to include it ANYWAY. Just because. These days I just imagine Boromir pulling a Daenerys and announcing he speaks Sindarin while ships explode in the background.)
sexyroguejedi responded:
I could see Boromir pretending not to speak it just to listen to gossip and stuff. People speak more freely if they think you can’t understand.
I said:
Sindarin is openly spoken on the streets of Minas Tirith. It’d have to be a very elaborate pretense.
(I suppose it's possible (though imo uncharacteristic) if he was surrounded by people who knew nothing about Gondorian society, but at the very least Gandalf and Aragorn would know better. Gandalf's visited and Aragorn lived there for years.)
On the 31st, in relation to a fic snippet I wrote about Éowyn and her Númenórean grandmother Morwen of Lossarnach, I said:
IDK I'm interested in how Éowyn is so deeply defined by her identity as 'maiden of the Rohirrim' and explicitly describes herself as non-Númenórean, yet has these ties. We don't know anything about her relationship with Morwen, say. Maybe Morwen died young and Éowyn never really knew her, but I choose 'no' to more tragic mothers, so!
Also, like ... apparently Éomer is ~6'6" because of Morwen. I profoundly love the idea of Thengel returning grumpily to Rohan with his three tiny children and this towering wife.