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I was getting pretty tired of Ovid, but there’s nothing like grading to make me appreciate his general murder and mayhem.

Tagged: #i like teaching literature #i do not like assigning grades
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I reblogged this post [cw for rape] and added:

ae;lkdf there’s this “cruel little boy” who reports Proserpina eating the pomegranate, so she can’t go home. She moans, then turns him into a screech owl.
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Pluto and Proserpina/Hades and Persephone in Ovid is uhhhh

[CW rape]

Read more... )
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me: Perseus, you’ve been through some things and you’re doing well, but you can’t solve all your problems by shoving Medusa’s decapitated head at them

Perseus: watch me

Tagged: #i do think it's weirdly cute that athena/minerva hangs out and helps him out because he's her brother #like... zeus's assorted random kids aren't really treated as a sibling set that often #but she just goes 'hey baby brother! i'm going to shield you in battle and inspire you to asskicking bc i care' #perseus: 'you're so cool'
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colorwheels14 responded to this post:

I get the sense that tumblr is in love with the modern reinterpretations, rather than the Roman version.

I replied:

I’m not sure, tbh—well, they’re not usually thinking of the Roman version but the Greek versions and claiming that Persephone actually consented/wanted to go/something or other, but I don’t think it’s exclusively modern reinterpretations.

[personal profile] heget said:

little me reading picture books of mythology loved this myth, then hermes’s birth and theft of cattle, and a distant third was orphesus and euridice

I replied:

Little me mostly felt sorry for Demeter/Ceres :(

(But my faves were always “anything with Athena in it,” lol.)

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Now I’m onto Pluto and Proserpina.

*deep sigh*

Tagged: #:( :( :( :( :( #tumblr has a ......... thing for this story #i do not #pretty weird that it's embedded into a singing contest though
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moggett responded to this post:

True! But I remember being annoyed her transformation wasn’t even a story of her own, just an adjunct to somebody else! 😠

I replied:

That’s very fair! The Metamorphoses doesn’t even explain why it happens or who causes it, the sisters are just mourning and then, wham, poplars.

My girl Liriope is mostly just present as Narcissus’s mother, so she has a pretty bad go of it as an adjunct to someone else’s story, too :(

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moggett responded to this post:

I loved the name “Phaethusa” but of course she had a horrible fate too...

I replied:

Yep! Though getting turned into a poplar isn’t that bad as the Metamorphoses go.
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I take short breaks between one horrific story and the next, and I thought … okay, if there were an Ovidverse campaign and all the players were demigods, how would I build one?

…And now I have a character sheet open and am trying to decide between aasimar paladin and storm sorcerer. >_<

Tagged: #running over a name i really like (even in the actual character has a terrible story) sealed the deal
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I’ve reached Book 3 of the Metamorphoses and appreciated this bit:

“And now Thebes stood, and you could seem, Cadmus,
Happy even in exile …
But a man’s last day
Must always be awaited, and no one counted happy
Until he has died and received due burial.” (3.140-41, 145-47)

Cheers!

Tagged: #thanks ovid
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It’s really easy to imagine the Metamorphoses as a D&D campaign with a truly malevolent DM.

Tagged: #alternately: it's a beautiful day in greece and you are a terrible god #idk it alternates in this really peculiar way between genuinely awful things and d:os style hilariously awful things #with little flashes of 'surprisingly not awful' things here and there #kind of begs to be a game #i know there are a ton of games that use this stuff too but ... idk. a very particular kind of game
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I reblogged this post, and added:

OTOH, “Callisto” is :( :( :( :( :(

Tagged: #i remembered that it was bad but not that jupiter transformed himself into diana to fool her :(

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Onto Book 2 of the Metamorphoses and “Phaëthon and Phoebus”! This one is interesting because I didn’t really dislike anyone in it? Or at least not their actions?

Sure, Jupiter kills Phaëthon, and you understand why Phoebus is so upset about it, but also Phaëthon was burning up so much of creation that even Pluto was going wtf??? down in Tartarus and Earth herself begged Jupiter to do it. Phaëthon was kind of annoying, but just in a kid-out-of-his-depth way.

IDK, it was interesting to read one with a bunch of gods in it and people having semi-decent motivations for their actions.

Tagged: #in fairness a bunch of phaëthon's relatives get transformed for no apparent reason #but we don't know who did it so ... #also interesting: if anyone is at fault here it's phoebus for making such a rash offer to a mortal boy #but i think the narrative is /very/ sympathetic to him while describing jupiter as 'fashioning excuses' #so if anyone is coming off badly it is—yet again—jupiter #aka celestial augustus
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bailesu responded to this post:

I’m amazed the Greek Gods can be worse than anyone’s expectations. They are certainly asses.

I replied:

Eh, the Roman ones have their own special flavor of terrible, especially in Ovid.

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I’m currently 25 pgs into the Metamorphoses, and the gods have managed to be even worse assholes than I expected!

I guess Apollo has some excuse in being struck by Cupid’s arrow, but literally the first thing Jupiter says to Io is:

“Virgin worthy of Jove, clearly destined to make
Some man or other happy in your bed,
You should find some shade over there in the woods”

>_<

Tagged: #yes yes values dissonance but also: the fuck? #also i'm not sure it is /that/ much values dissonance; the introduction argues that the gods are deliberately written as capricious tyrants #in any case jupiter is so relentlessly terrible that it is all the more satisfying that ovid explicitly compares augustus to him
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[personal profile] jubaah responded to this post:

oooh which translation are you reading? I love that book…

I replied:

Stanley Lombardo’s! I chose his because a friend chose it for his reading list, and I liked his Aeneid for what it is—I’ve never read the Metamorphoses before, though, so I hope it’s a good one :)

anghraine: choppy water on a misty day (sea)
Starting the Metamorphoses, and already:

“And while other animals look on all fours at the ground
He gave to humans an upturned face, and told them to lift
Their eyes to the stars.”

<3
anghraine: an armoured woman with a sword against a gold background (éowyn (pelennor))
You all are probably tired of hearing about the Aeneid, but I just have to share this bit of an incredibly cool speech that Juno gets:

“But if my powers
Are not great enough, why should I hesitate
To seek help from any source whatever?
If I cannot sway Heaven, I will awaken Hell!”


Tagged: #not at all favorably portrayed but unmistakably badass #also i like venus here but juno's call-out of her re: paris was very satisfying
anghraine: choppy water on a misty day (sea)
Back to my Aeneid notes, and I really love this description of the morning star:

Like the Morning Star, loved by Venus
As no other star, when it rises from Ocean,
A sacred light in the sky melting the dark.

Eärendil!!!

Tagged: #look this has reminded me of tolkien multiple times but ESPECIALLY this passage
anghraine: a close shot of catra from she-ra, a girl with cat ears, heterochromia, and long hair (catra)
Over at Tumblr, the main women's wrongs poll finished. After 4,464 votes (easily my most voted upon poll ever), the top four results were:

1) Clytemnestra from the Oresteia (19.5%)
2) Carmilla from (Le Fanu's) Carmilla (16.4%)
3) Catra from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (15.3%)
4) Cersei Lannister from ASOIAF (10.7%)

C is the letter of choice for beloved morally dubious female characters, apparently!

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