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Rambling about family relationships based on my research for my PhD exams (16th- to 18th-century British literature):

One of the things that came up in my reading for my exams was, inevitably, ~the rise of the companionate marriage~. The usual framing is often over-simplistic and very heterocentric; people sometimes talk as if there was no concept of marriage involving romantic ties (sometimes even exclusive romantic ties!) until the 17th/18th century or something.

That said
, IMO there’s something to it, at least in England. As someone who had mostly done research in the 18th and earlier 19th centuries, 16th-century takes on marriage often sound like they come from Earth 2. Over time, there’s more and more emphasis on the ties of marriage, companionship, and parenthood in cultural discourse, with other family relationships increasingly subordinated to those, even while ideas from earlier periods about the importance of those other family relationships persisted in some ways.

Like, there was a lot of talk about how brothers were supposed to care for the interests of their siblings, especially their unmarried sisters, but there’s also a lot of talk about how that was increasingly not happening, and how the ties between brothers and sisters were becoming less important and less reliable as a "net" for unmarried women.

Men increasingly resented their sisters for taking resources that would otherwise go to their wives and children, or simply denied them meaningful resources altogether in favor of focusing on their own wives/children. It was a really well-established dynamic by the time that Wollstonecraft wrote about it in Vindication of the Rights of Woman and Austen in Sense and Sensibility.

One of the things that S&S highlights is that John and Fanny Dashwood’s son does not need the resources that are denied to John’s sisters. He already has a comfortable separate inheritance. John prioritizes Fanny and Harry over his sisters both because of his character and because doing so had become very culturally normalized by then.

By the 20th century (at least in the UK and US), people prioritizing their spouses and children over their siblings or other connections was and is often going to seem "well, of course they would." But the degree to which that is the case is really influenced by cultural norms and expectations. Going back to Austen (surprise), she has an intriguing passage about it that speaks to the shifts in how the sibling tie was seen and experienced:
An advantage this, a strengthener of love, in which even the conjugal tie is beneath the fraternal. Children of the same family, the same blood, with the same first associations and habits, have some means of enjoyment in their power, which no subsequent connections can supply; and it must be by a long and unnatural estrangement, by a divorce which no subsequent connection can justify, if such precious remains of the earliest attachments are ever entirely outlived. Too often, alas! it is so.—Fraternal love, sometimes almost every thing, is at others worse than nothing.
I don’t even have siblings (sort of surrogate siblings, but not people I was actually brought up with), but I do find the evolution and melancholy over this really interesting. And I do think that a lot of the, hmm, enthusiasm over the rise of the “companionate marriage” tends to ignore the cost of it.

Tagged: #i am pretty sure this is why austen keeps returning to darcy's sense of responsibility and deep affection for his sister #and why elizabeth thinks his way of talking about georgiana should have told her about his character #i've seen people be like 'just bc you care about your own family members doesn't mean you're a good person wtf' about that #but it was a big deal at the time! #wickham brings it up as something that people in general praise darcy for too #obviously this was of really immediate concern for austen herself #but plenty of people write about it over the years #and it's just ... idk #complicated

[ETA 5/28/2024: this is actually extremely relevant to my dissertation and something I was literally just writing about today!]

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[personal profile] heckofabecca asked:

Who are your favorite Austen sibling pairs, and how would you rate them in order of most to MOSTEST favorite?

I replied:

Hmm! Let’s see … some of the ranking is easy, and some not so much, but I’m inclined to go:

7. Jane and Elizabeth Bennet—there’s not much to say, it’s just a sweet and strong dynamic that functions perfectly within the wider novel.

6. Elinor and Marianne Dashwood—never mind the love interests, their love is the beating heart of S&S.

5. Sophy and Frederick Wentworth—it’s really enjoyable to see 30-something siblings who are frank and upfront and affectionate, even with their differences.

4. James and Catherine Morland—both rather sweet and refreshingly normal, lol.

3. William and Fanny Price—the “no subsequent connection” passage about them is one of my favourites in all of Austen! <3

2. Mary and Henry Crawford—I like me my morally dubious schemers, and morally dubious schemers who are loving family and loyal friends (to each other) are like catnip.

1. Fitzwilliam and Georgiana Darcy—there was absolutely no other possibility for this slot, I adore them individually and I especially love them as a pair.

Of Georgiana: Her brother’s recommendation was enough to ensure her favour; his judgment could not err.

Of Darcy: There is nothing he would not do for her.
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salazarastark on Tumblr asked:

So I'm going through your Austen tags and I really love it. It seems like you're articulating things that I've never been able too, or making me think of things I never would have. I have a couple questions that I love to see your response to, but I either can't seem to find them or you don't have them answered. If you don't mind, what are your opinions on a.) when the novels take place and b.) what the heroines would think of each other?

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I was just reading some reviews of Patricia Rozema’s version of Mansfield Park and, of course, must vent.

I love the novel Mansfield Park — it’s my favourite Jane Austen novel after Pride and Prejudice, and I admire it more.  So when I finally laid my hands on a copy of the adaptation, I was rather looking forward to a decentish version.

 

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Back when I was in high school, my entire class had to take these tests for a health class – I was an INTJ, to my utter non-surprise.  Then, when I went into college two years later, I took it again – INTP.  Since I was always a borderline J anyway, and also a bit off my head at the time, also not surprised.  The other day, I took it at work, again, and I was back to my old INTJ-ness.  Which was awesome, because I get – er – more P-ish when I’m not quite well.  Anyway, I took the link over to the ‘these are what INTJs are like, and these are some examples’.  The RL examples were pretty cool, but not half as much as the fictional ones.

Hannibal Lecter, Fitzwilliam Darcy, and Gandalf the Grey.  It just doesn’t get cooler than that.

 

Analyse here . . . )

 

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