anghraine: a screenshot of fitzwilliam and georgiana darcy standing together in the 1980 p&p miniseries (darcys (1980))
Rambling about family relationships based on my research for my PhD exams (16th- to 18th-century British literature):

One of the things that came up in my reading for my exams was, inevitably, ~the rise of the companionate marriage~. The usual framing is often over-simplistic and very heterocentric; people sometimes talk as if there was no concept of marriage involving romantic ties (sometimes even exclusive romantic ties!) until the 17th/18th century or something.

That said
, IMO there’s something to it, at least in England. As someone who had mostly done research in the 18th and earlier 19th centuries, 16th-century takes on marriage often sound like they come from Earth 2. Over time, there’s more and more emphasis on the ties of marriage, companionship, and parenthood in cultural discourse, with other family relationships increasingly subordinated to those, even while ideas from earlier periods about the importance of those other family relationships persisted in some ways.

Like, there was a lot of talk about how brothers were supposed to care for the interests of their siblings, especially their unmarried sisters, but there’s also a lot of talk about how that was increasingly not happening, and how the ties between brothers and sisters were becoming less important and less reliable as a "net" for unmarried women.

Men increasingly resented their sisters for taking resources that would otherwise go to their wives and children, or simply denied them meaningful resources altogether in favor of focusing on their own wives/children. It was a really well-established dynamic by the time that Wollstonecraft wrote about it in Vindication of the Rights of Woman and Austen in Sense and Sensibility.

One of the things that S&S highlights is that John and Fanny Dashwood’s son does not need the resources that are denied to John’s sisters. He already has a comfortable separate inheritance. John prioritizes Fanny and Harry over his sisters both because of his character and because doing so had become very culturally normalized by then.

By the 20th century (at least in the UK and US), people prioritizing their spouses and children over their siblings or other connections was and is often going to seem "well, of course they would." But the degree to which that is the case is really influenced by cultural norms and expectations. Going back to Austen (surprise), she has an intriguing passage about it that speaks to the shifts in how the sibling tie was seen and experienced:
An advantage this, a strengthener of love, in which even the conjugal tie is beneath the fraternal. Children of the same family, the same blood, with the same first associations and habits, have some means of enjoyment in their power, which no subsequent connections can supply; and it must be by a long and unnatural estrangement, by a divorce which no subsequent connection can justify, if such precious remains of the earliest attachments are ever entirely outlived. Too often, alas! it is so.—Fraternal love, sometimes almost every thing, is at others worse than nothing.
I don’t even have siblings (sort of surrogate siblings, but not people I was actually brought up with), but I do find the evolution and melancholy over this really interesting. And I do think that a lot of the, hmm, enthusiasm over the rise of the “companionate marriage” tends to ignore the cost of it.

Tagged: #i am pretty sure this is why austen keeps returning to darcy's sense of responsibility and deep affection for his sister #and why elizabeth thinks his way of talking about georgiana should have told her about his character #i've seen people be like 'just bc you care about your own family members doesn't mean you're a good person wtf' about that #but it was a big deal at the time! #wickham brings it up as something that people in general praise darcy for too #obviously this was of really immediate concern for austen herself #but plenty of people write about it over the years #and it's just ... idk #complicated

[ETA 5/28/2024: this is actually extremely relevant to my dissertation and something I was literally just writing about today!]

anghraine: hayley atwell as mary crawford playing a harp in itv's mansfield park (mary crawford)
An anon asked:

I feel like you've probably been asked this before, but which Austen novel do you most recommend? (I've read p&p and really loved it!)

I replied:

My favorite after P&P is Mansfield Park, but a lot of people bounce pretty hard off of it. It’s longer, more sober, much less classically romantic (I ship the heroine and her rival muuuuch more than the main canon couple), and often considered morally messy.

If that’s not your thing, you might want to try Persuasion. It was written towards the end of Austen’s life in the later 1810s, whereas P&P was first written in the mid-1790s, so it’s very different in some ways. It definitely engages with a changing world where P&P really belongs to an earlier era. But it’s interesting, and IMO very touching in its own right.

[personal profile] heckofabecca said:

my 3 favs <3
anghraine: david rintoul as darcy in the 1980 p&p in a red coat (darcy (1980))
My best friend and I had an interesting, fairly wide-ranging conversation about the distinctions between adaptation, retellings, fanfiction, other forms of directly intertextual storytelling (à la Wide Sargasso Sea, Lavinia etc), covers (as in music), heavily illustrated editions of texts, collage, sampling, novelizations, ekphrasis generally, translation, and inspiration.

The distinctions here are mainly ones that he makes and I do not. For me, all of these things are on a spectrum or scatterplot of something like intertextuality. As I was saying on Tumblr the other day (re: fanfiction), I don’t actually think that most of these kinds of terminology reflect coherently defined art forms at all. They reflect norms, values, and conventions shaped by laws and corporations and other economic/cultural concerns, not any consistent system of understanding intertextuality more broadly.

This is a frequent point of disagreement between him and me, because he prefers to refine terms like these into … philosophical coherence, I guess? So he’ll say, well, I think of the term as more specifically meaning X, not Y, and that lets us examine the different approaches that X and Y take in a more systematic, artistically formal way. (As in the linked post, this is formal in the sense of form not as in propriety.)

And I’m like … it does, yes, but I don’t think that kind of re-definition corresponds to the meanings of those terms in actual usage. Narrowing the definitions imposes a coherence and logic to these distinctions that I don’t think actually exists. It’s more like a grab bag of imprecise, overlapping categories defined by values and customs and legal practice than anything they’re doing artistically.

Him: inconsistent laws and customs are kind of arbitrary and uninteresting in terms of theorizing categories of art, though.

Me: not to me, but anyway, I think the way we theorize art is very profoundly shaped by modern customs and laws to a degree we often can't even see, and words are defined by usage, not philosophical convenience.

(Yeah, we’re super fun at parties. But seriously, this is how we’ve talked since high school.)

Regardless, his theory is that adaptation is actually a narrower category of intertextual art than in casual (or academic) usage. His view is that an adaptation is an attempt to represent the actual source; there may be new material added, and some of the original material may be removed, but there is an effort to preserve not just character outlines or plot structure or elements of setting, but considerable amounts of the original source, usually in a different medium than the original. A re-telling, on the other hand, is a work that re-casts the source material into new language and sometimes generic (as in genre) form.

This is all according to him, not me. I think all storytelling of this kind = re-telling and that there is no hard line separating these approaches, just gradations of variance.

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anghraine: hayley atwell as mary crawford playing a harp in itv's mansfield park (mary crawford)
I finally managed to work Austen into my exam and it’s freaking Northanger Abbey. >_<

Tagged: #na is ... fine #and obviously one of the easiest to directly connect to 18th cent stuff #but also definitely not my fave and i'm sitting there like #let me talk about p&p or mp #please #we'll see if i can make it work... /sigh #i've got 10 more pgs to write in #uh #11 hours #okay

[ETA 3/23/2024: my song choice was random, but ngl the PhD exam posts certainly felt like I was blogging from the end of the world!]
anghraine: a painting of a couple walking on the lawn of haddon hall in derbyshire (pemberley (haddon))
I reblogged my Fitzwilliam headcanon dramatis personae post, and added:

Note: when I was re-conceptualizing my Fitzwilliam headcanons, I had the idea of using an actual title invented by Austen, and then actually having the earl be that person and going from there. So:
  • The dowager Lady Ravenshaw here = the grandmother whose death puts an end to the theatricals in MP
  • Lord Ravenshaw here = P&P’s Lord ___ + MP’s Lord Ravenshaw, “one of the most correct men in England”
  • Lady Catherine = P&P’s Lady Catherine (of course)
  • Lady Ravenshaw = MP’s Lady Ravenshaw, who was playing Agatha very well
  • Lord Rochford = Colonel Fitzwilliam’s implied older brother in P&P
  • Lady Anne Brydges = mine, all mine!
  • Lady Mary Carlisle = the mother of the children whose existence necessitates the governess (playing the cottager’s wife) in MP
  • Colonel Fitzwilliam = P&P’s Colonel Fitzwilliam
  • Anne de Bourgh, Fitzwilliam Darcy, Georgiana Darcy = P&P
  • Sophia and Margaret Carlisle = children overseen by MP’s governess

Tagged: #me overthinking things? it can't be
anghraine: elizabeth bennet from "austen's pride," singing her half of "the portrait song" (elizabeth (the portrait song))
I reblogged art of ... an Austen heroine, presumably, which asked "what is your favorite Austen book", and tagged it:

#pride and prejudice and mansfield park!

[ETA 2/14/2022: let's be real, it's P&P, but I do love MP a lot]
anghraine: sherlock holmes [benedick cumberbatch]; text: i'm bored & your porn is boring (sherlock)
THE AUSTEN CONNECTION AT LAST!

Continued from here.

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