anghraine: david rintoul as darcy in the 1980 p&p in a red coat (darcy (1980))
So I started half-a-dozen scraps of things!

Here's some early canon-compliant Darcy:

The first time Darcy saw Elizabeth Bennet, he noticed almost nothing about her. He was in an ill humour that evening, and would rather have attended one of his uncle’s dreadful theatricals than a village assembly full of strangers. He disliked both forming new acquaintance and dancing at the best of times—and this was far from that. He heard the barely-whispered gossip about the Bingleys and himself, he felt the gazes of the sparse crowd fixing on him, and he saw few signs of sense, fashion, or beauty anywhere.

Bingley, predictably enough, gravitated towards the only handsome woman in the room, a young lady who looked like a painting and to go by her placid, unwavering smile, seemed about as interesting a conversationalist as one.

Here's a bit about my headcanon for Elros's wife, early on:

Ithíriel lived long for one born in Middle-earth, who had only come to Númenor as a young woman. In the new land, her years passed slowly and peacefully as she gathered what records she could find, and took down more.

She was one among six other archivists entrusted with recovery and oversight of the records of the Edain. It was a great task, and would have been impossible without the patronage of their half-Elf king. But Tar-Minyatur had a great value for lore, and withheld nothing from the archives.

Even on Númenor, though, time passed. By the point that Tar-Minyatur could pause his labors long enough to see the archives for himself, a decade after Ithíriel’s arrival in Númenor, she had more lines about her eyes than he did. She always would.

Here's some Mass Effect!Shepard!Elizabeth:

Just about everyone in the Alliance, and plenty of those outside it, knew what Elizabeth Bennet had done at Torfan. But they didn’t understand. Nobody did, really, not even Admiral Gardiner, who’d defended her to the tribunal.

Elizabeth knew what people called her behind her back.
The butcher of Torfan.

She’d long ago resigned herself to that. When Elizabeth could do something about a problem, she acted; when she couldn’t, she let it go. And she couldn’t do anything about the past.

Least of all when she didn’t regret it.

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anghraine: an armoured woman with a sword against a gold background (éowyn (pelennor))
Honestly, now that I think of it … if there’s any of the pre-LOTR non-Silm stories I’d love to see given a full treatment, it would probably be the story of Cirion and Eorl and the Battle of the Field of Celebrant.

#it might be too similar to the ride of the rohirrim but..... do i care? no #hire me amazon #...actually don't hire me bc it's amazon but ... y'know. SOMEONE who appreciates gondor and rohan the way they deserve #if it gets to the third age at all #probably going to be the last alliance which is pretty cool too #but all the pieces that go into play to make the field of celebrant work out is just - !!!!!!!! #super cinematic imo

anghraine: a picture of a wooden chair with a regal white rod propped on the seat (stewards)
Tolkien on Cirion and Eorl:

On the part of Cirion the love was that of a wise father, old in the cares of the world, for a son in the strength and hope of his youth; while in Cirion Eorl saw the highest and noblest man of the world that he knew, and the wisest.

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

Tagged:

#eorl thinking cirion is the noblest and wisest man in his world ;_; #anyway they would be super happy to know that cirion's heir and the sister of eorl's would one day marry #and i am one hundred percent sure that their legacy loomed very large at the wedding

anghraine: a female half-elf with shoulder length hair in 3/4 profile (larissa (unimpressed))
This is probably funny only to me, but it’s like…

Arvedui: And in conclusion, Isildur didn’t give up the kingship, so as current heir of Isildur—may my father rest in peace—I should be king of Gondor and—

Araphant: Stop telling people I’m dead!

Arvedui: …sometimes I can still hear his voice.

#i'm sorry but claiming the throne as heir of isildur while his father was alive is just ... #i guess i respect the sheer audacity if not much else #(this actually bothers me less than claiming the throne via fíriel but I MEAN) #i'm just imagining the council of gondor morphing into the edgar allen poe meme when they got arvedui's message

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It’s obviously not the worst part of that wtf take on the Stewards, but “most notably” Ecthelion? Over Mardil? Boromir? Cirion?

Pffft.

#but ecthelion liked aragorn so that makes him the best steward of them all #>_> #tbh cirion is probably the best ruler gondor ever had

anghraine: adora from spop, transformed into she-ra, narrowing her eyes in anger (adora (angry))
I reblogged my post here and added:

uhhhh

There have been some great Stewards throughout the years (most notably, Ecthelion, father of Denethor) but Stewards just weren’t good enough no matter how hard they tried.




WHY DID I LOOK

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For once, Quora sent me something relevant to my interests:

anghraine: a picture of grey-white towers starting to glow yellow in the rising sun (minas anor)
I still think about the translation of Elladan as “Elf-Númenórean.”

People always correct me about this, but it’s Tolkien’s translation, and … I mean, of course there’s its implication that Elrond considers his children Númenóreans in some capacity, and therefore himself, as Aragorn suggests in LOTR. That’s just !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (seriously, Númenórean Elrond is everything).

But I also think the very thing that people correct me over is interesting—the translation of adan as “Númenórean” rather than “human” or even “related to the Edain.” There are absolutely Edainic peoples in the Third Age who aren’t Númenórean, like the Dunlendings (kin of the Haladin). But there are at least some contexts in which adan does not refer to them but exclusively to Númenóreans, because … ?????

We do know that Elrohir, at least, was named in a Númenórean dialect of Sindarin (it would be Elrochir in classical Sindarin). Tolkien pretty persistently associates that dialect with Gondor, which is also interesting, but the children are born early enough that it seems the linguistic evolution must have happened quite rapidly after the fall of Númenor (if it was a Gondorian shift).

Perhaps it reflected a perception among the Númenórean refugees that they were the last people to be Edain in any meaningful sense. Maybe it was something else! But at the least, the shift seems to indicate a strong association between Edainic and Númenórean identity in the eyes of the Dúnedain.

#like ... it's Problematic(TM) #but there is part of me that really enjoys how thoroughly the númenóreans align themselves with the edain #fandom tends to treat them as bargain elves or attribute everything about them to remote elvish ancestors #when they're distinguished as a people at all #but they're like EDAIN EDAIN EDAIN
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Hills I will die on:

Fíriel’s claim to the throne of Gondor and Arvedui’s claim to the throne of Gondor are not the same!

Arvedui tries to claim the throne for himself through Fíriel, under the pretense argument that that’s how it worked in Númenor. But in Númenor, Fíriel would be Ruling Queen, and Arvedui her consort, not the other way around. The only men who claimed to be king through their wives’ birthrights were usurpers. And Fíriel never claimed the Gondorian throne in her own right.

Arvedui also claims the throne as heir of Isildur (sort of—iirc his father was actually alive at the time?). This is the sole claim that Arvedui and Fíriel’s descendant Aragorn makes later, which perhaps suggests that he sees it as more legitimate or at least more persuasive. Regardless, it’s a separate matter from Fíriel’s rights, and I think the lines between the two distinct claims that Arvedui makes get blurred a lot.

Tagged:

#'fíriel should have been ruling queen' is fair (i wrote fic about it in my youth!) but also never under discussion in the story #and aragorn himself gives no indication of thinking he should be king as /fíriel's/ heir—only isildur's #and we know vanishingly little about fíriel's life much less her opinions #my headcanon is that she went back to minas anor with her daughters and lived in state as a princess of gondor #but #we don't know what she felt or did or anything #so it's always kind of weird when people defend arvedui's false representation of númenórean law bc fíriel got treated unfairly #jka;dfad it's not exactly everything that makes me defensive on aldarion's behalf #but like #arvedui: my wife being daughter of the king means i should be king actually #aldarion and ancalimë: *spinning in their watery graves* #yes i've talked about this before and yes i will talk about it forever

anghraine: a picture of a wooden chair with a regal white rod propped on the seat (stewards)
In POME, there’s a comment to the effect of … the Stewards ruled well, but they didn’t go invading other countries or trying to “reclaim” the old empire or anything like that, just gave up territory to preserve the rest of Gondor.

And I’m just like? good for them???

#and then the kings go empire-building again and it's just... /sigh #i have a ... louder post about this with the exact quote somewhere but i'm too lazy to look it up
anghraine: a picture of a wooden chair with a regal white rod propped on the seat (stewards)
I reblogged a detailed sketch of a possible design for Boromir's armor and the Stewards' iconography from lesbiansforboromir on Tumblr. In the text, they (rightly IMO) criticized the design for Gondor in the Jackson films as "bland unsaturated fantasy medieval europe."

I reblogged and added:

#sing the song of my people #it's like..... tolkien explicitly said that the inspirations for gondor were ancient egypt + byzantium + italy #which would be SO COOL #and they gave us... that #anyway these designs are gorgeous :)
anghraine: the symbol of gondor: a white tree on a black field with seven stones and a crown (gondor)
I reblogged this post I made in 2014:

I could be working on my paper

alternately I could try and figure out a rough estimate of the populations of Gondor

Okay, the army raised from the outlands to defend Minas Tirith:
  • 200 from Lossarnach
  • 300 from Ringló Vale
  • 500 bowmen from Morthond
  • a ‘long line’ of ill-equipped men from the Anfalas
  • 'a few grim hillsmen’ from Lamedon
  • 100-odd spared from the ships of the Ethir
  • 300 from Pinnath Gelin
  • 700 men at arms from Dol Amroth and a company (100-200?) of knights
Altogether, it’s stated to be just under 3000, most remaining home to defend their own lands. After the defeat of the Corsairs removes most of that threat, Aragorn leads a large host out of the south to the Pelennor Fields. Several days later, 4000 arrive from Pelargir, and “many” others. Ultimately, the Gondorian contingent of the army that rides to the Morannon consists of 2000 southern Gondorians under Aragorn, 3500 Gondorians under Imrahil, and 500 horsemen, and they’re able to leave behind more defenders in Minas Tirith than it had for the battle itself; ergo, over 3000. Most of the remaining Rohirrim follow Elfhelm to take command of the North Road, so that 3000+ would be overwhelmingly Gondorian (…and we already know of over 4000 that are, soooo). The various provinces of Gondor would also not be left entirely unguarded.

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anghraine: a picture of grey-white towers starting to glow yellow in the rising sun (minas anor)
queen-of-carven-stone said:

“God forbid Gondor is something other than a vague reward for Aragorn” - AN ETERNAL MOOD

I replied:

It is certainly my eternal mood!

#gondor has a rich complex culture and history of its own #it includes large and beautiful stretches of land #coasts and mountains and valleys and farms and forests and rivers and waterfalls #it has a population of millions of citizens #there is so much there!!!! that has vanishingly little to do with being aragorn's prize! #like. aragorn himself realizes this!! #anywayyyy

anghraine: a picture of multnomah falls in oregon: a tall waterfall with a wooden bridge connecting either side (multnomah)
lesbiansforboromir at Tumblr made a post about loving Gondor, and someone else unnecessarily responded with a complaint about how Gondor is too stony and devoid of greenery/trees except the dead White Tree for them, and they prefer Rohan (this person had not read the book). lesbiansforboromir responded with a headache graphic pointing out that this is entirely on the Jackson films and book Gondor is a fertile, verdant land nourished by the largest river in Middle-earth.

I said:

This is one hundred percent me. My greatest bitterness is over Lebennin. I mean, after Denethor, Faramir, etc. But LEBENNIN. Yes, sure, maybe there wasn't time to show Lebennin itself, but they certainly could have included actual Gondorians in the relieving army. But God forbid that Gondor is something other than a conveniently placed fortress + a vague land for Aragorn to be rewarded with.

anghraine: a man with long black hair and a ring on his hand (faramir [hair])
This isn't the post on the subject I made on Tumblr, but the longer, rantier version I drafted before that and decided against posting there. Some people wanted the full version, but I didn't want to deal with Tumblr tag hell, so I thought—hey, I'll post it at Dreamwidth and link it for the people who want to read.

Okay.

I was thinking over the omission of the scouring of the Shire from Jackson's ROTK, which is both easily understood and one of the films' worst decisions IMO in terms of LOTR's treatment of war.

And, of course, I was also thinking of how underwhelming I find film!Gondor, which is largely reduced to Minas Tirith and the fields around it (clearly not farmland in movieverse Gondor), and which even with regard to Minas Tirith is pretty underwhelming to me. I think that taking a country inspired by ancient Egypt, the Byzantine Empire, and Italy more broadly (including some explicit Gondorian analogues to places like Venice and Assisi) and making it that blah and watered-down really takes some doing.

It then struck me that while these are both things that bother me a lot, and intellectually, I believe the omission of the scouring is worse because it's more integral to the main themes and arcs, there is an important difference.

It's this: the LOTR films love the Shire.

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anghraine: the symbol of gondor: a white tree on a black field with seven stones and a crown (gondor)
“If she came through the settled lands of Gondor,” they said, “she would not be molested, and might receive help; for the Men of Gondor are good, and they are ruled by descendants of the Elf-friends of old who can still speak our tongue, after a fashion.” (Unfinished Tales, “The History of Galadriel and Celeborn”)

They spoke together in soft voices, at first using the Common Speech, but after the manner of older days, and then changing to another language of their own. (LOTR)

To his face men were gravely courteous, saluting him after the manner of Gondor with bowed head and hands upon the breast; but behind him he heard many calls, as those out of doors cried to others within to come and see the Prince of the Halflings, the companion of Mithrandir. Many used some other tongue than the Common Speech, but it was not long before he learned at least what was meant by Ernil i Pheriannath and knew that his title had gone down before him into the city. (LOTR)

Gondorian Sindarin is everything tbh
anghraine: a picture of grey-white towers starting to glow yellow in the rising sun (minas anor)
An anon said, with regard to this and this:

I always read "all the ways of the City" as 'in all parts of the City'? Like, ways in the sense of highways and byways.

I replied:

Mm, it’s possible, but I think less probable.
anghraine: a picture of grey-white towers starting to glow yellow in the rising sun (minas anor)
In response to my tags on this post, an anon asked:

"All the ways of the City"? Is that like the Gondorian anthem?

I replied:

Mm, I don’t think so. I think singing in all the ways of the City = singing in the different styles of music used in Minas Tirith, or possibly, just in the different languages used there. Or both, which is what I’m actually inclined to think he meant (and now I’m imagining Sindarin rock!).

It’s LOTR, so different people bursting into different types of song is pretty much to be expected in emotional moments—what’s special here is a whole city doing it at once.
anghraine: the symbol of gondor: a white tree on a black field with seven stones and a crown (gondor)
Not everyone in LOTR respects Gondor the way I feel they should, but shout-out to the giant Eagles:

Sing and rejoice, ye people of the Tower of Guard,
for your watch hath not been in vain.

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anghraine: the symbol of gondor: a white tree on a black field with seven stones and a crown (gondor)
I reblogged this playlist that I first posted in June of 2014:





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