anghraine: elizabeth bennet from "austen's pride," singing her half of "the portrait song" (elizabeth (the portrait song))
I was tagged in a last line meme on Tumblr!

Rules: Post the last line of your current WIP and tag everyone who you want to share the latest and greatest of their fics!

Thanks to @irresistible-revolution for tagging me!

Hmm, I’m not sure which was more recent, so I’ll cheat and go with two :P

Here’s the last of the current chapter of tolerably well acquainted, my canon-compliant fic about Elizabeth’s feelings through the Pemberley scenes and after:

She wanted him to be happy.

And here’s one from an untitled Faramir backstory fic I started a little while ago:

But it seemed he would be Denethor’s son after all—at least in this.

Back in 2020, I tagged [personal profile] elperian, [personal profile] heckofabecca, [personal profile] tree, [personal profile] incognitajones, [personal profile] ncfan 
anghraine: darcy and elizabeth after the second proposal in the 1979 p&p (darcy and elizabeth [proposal])
I reblogged an Austen meme! Here's the first ask/response:

[personal profile] elperian said:

I shan't ask ones I think I know the answer to ;) so: 17, 18, 19, and 20!

Haha, let’s see:

17) Moment that made you sad/cry while reading

Hmm, I don’t really go to Austen for tears. I do feel really sorry for Darcy and Elizabeth after the first proposal and the letter, though. And for Anne, generally, though a particular moment…?

18) Moment that made you smile/happy while reading

Ahhh, it’s always going to be Elizabeth’s realization that she’s proud of Darcy.

19) Moment that made you laugh while reading

Oh, there are a lot, of course. Hmm … it’s cheating to call it a moment, but I get a huge kick out of the History of England.

20) Moment that made you mad while reading

Wickham saying “it pains me to speak ill of a Darcy” as he trashes Georgiana. D:
anghraine: jyn and cassian circling each other in the hangar (jyn and cassian [hangar scene])
Another meme! Tagged by lantur :)

Three ships:
Darcy/Elizabeth, peak OTP for all time; Jyn/Cassian from Rogue One, the only SW ship that matters; (bookverse) Aragorn/Faramir, and I know no one ships it but I ship it enough for multiple people.

Last song:
a friend just sent me Vaughan Williams’s Fantasia on a Theme of Thomas Tallis, which is super gorgeous and cinematic.

Last movie:
TROS! Eh.

Currently reading:
The Aeneid by Virgil for my exams. Definitely one of the funner pieces!

Currently watching:
Nothing, really. I don’t watch a lot of TV, especially not full episodes, so I just periodically go to YT and watch clips of things I like.

Currently consuming:
my morning cup of loose leaf chai :)

Currently craving:
the rice pudding from yesterday.

Tagging: the usual suspects!
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An anon asked irresistible-revolution:

Who in the atla cast do you see as Pride and Prejudice?

She replied:

lmao ima let our resident austen expert and also atla fan @anghraine handle this one :3

I said:

:)

I’m thinking about it and tbh—if we’re looking at Elizabeth/Darcy specifically, P&P doesn’t always map well onto some things, and I think this might be one of them.

(The boring answer, I know.)

There are plenty of characters who are fierce and spirited like Elizabeth, but I don’t think many who are that and temperamentally light-hearted, while also fundamentally serious. Aang combines easy-going high spirits and strength of character, so he’s probably closest. Still, he’s a very different (esp gentler and, critically, humbler) personality. He’s more like a stronger Bingley.

Read more... )
anghraine: elizabeth accepting darcy's proposal in "austen's pride" (darcy and elizabeth (austen's pride))
Multi-shipping is good and all, but … it’s not going to work for everyone, it’s not going to work in all circumstances even for people who do it, and it’s not a cure-all for the ills of fandom.

I have fandoms where I multi-ship (Faramir/Éowyn + Faramir/Aragorn!), but I also have ones where I don’t (e.g. Darcy/Elizabeth), and it’s incredibly irritating when people are all “just take off your shipping goggles!” about EVERYTHING.

Sure, I could, but also, I could not. And I like my shipping goggles right where they are, thanks.

#don't get me wrong: multishipping is nice and multishippers are generally boons to fandom #buuuut also there are def fandoms where i'm just ... nah #and no i don't need to hear the good news of multishipping #some 'otps' are just ships but some are O T P S and like. that's fine #it's fine if people don't multi-ship anything #it's fine if they multi-ship everything #just. whatever
anghraine: darcy and elizabeth after the second proposal in the 1979 p&p (darcy and elizabeth [proposal])
Look … I love P&P like nothing else in the world, but not every vaguely antagonistic couple corresponds to Elizabeth/Darcy. This is true even when it comes to adaptations—but especially when it comes to the book.

I keep seeing ships framed as analogues to Elizabeth/Darcy, and 90% of the time it makes no sense whatsoever.

#in fairness: the elizabeth analogues sometimes vaguely work. but the darcy ones almost never do bc like #i think the thing that fandom tends to not get about darcy is that he doesn't sit around brooding over shit #he smiles a lot and when he does feel badly it's because he realizes he's behaved badly #he doesn't go around angsting in GENERAL #his past is that his parents were over-indulgent bc he was the heir and maybe kind of neglectful in a rich people way #and wickham was his dad's favourite #the tragedy!! #and of course a 'bzuh?' darcy completely transforms the ship's dynamic from d/e and it just ends up at ... no #also the elizabeth analogues only VAGUELY approach the mark but i've ranted about that before i think #i love my juggernaut carrier of a ship but its dynamics are not applicable to EVERY. SHIP. EVER.
anghraine: darcy and elizabeth after the second proposal in the 1979 p&p (darcy and elizabeth [proposal])
It's been a couple of weeks since the shipping poll finale, so I think it's safe to say that the ultimate winner over here was, also, Elizabeth Bennet/Fitzwilliam Darcy.

I thought it was interesting, since the sample sizes were so different, that the results of each individual poll were almost identical to the Tumblr ones even if the proportions of the wins were different. The main different result was that the two Leia OT3s, Leia/Jyn/Cassian and Luke/Han/Leia, tied over here, where L/H/L clearly won at Tumblr. Justice for my rarepair pool noodle :D

But at least among my collective followers, Elizabeth/Darcy is always going to be a hard one to beat. OTP of ultimate destiny!

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Poll #29703 Shipping Poll 4
This poll is anonymous.
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 12

According to you, which ship is better?

View Answers

Jolene/the person speaking in "Jolene"
2 (16.7%)

Leia Organa/Jyn Erso/Cassian Andor
1 (8.3%)

Elizabeth Bennet/Fitzwilliam Darcy
8 (66.7%)

Luke Skywalker/Han Solo/Leia Organa
1 (8.3%)

anghraine: k-2so tracking jyn and cassian by explosion (kay [explosion])

Poll #29648 Shipping Poll 3c
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Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 11

According to you, which ship is better?

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Benedick/Beatrice
4 (36.4%)

Elizabeth Bennet/Fitzwilliam Darcy
7 (63.6%)

anghraine: darcy kissing elizabeth's hand after their engagement in "austen's pride" (darcy and elizabeth (engagement))

Thinking of P&P again and one of my favourite evolutions (and I think one that’s semi-overlooked) is this:

Ch 10:

Elizabeth could not help observing, as she turned over some music books that lay on the instrument, how frequently Mr Darcy’s eyes were fixed on her. She hardly knew how to suppose that she could be an object of admiration to so great a man; and yet that he should look at her because he disliked her was still more strange.

Ch 56:

“If you were sensible of your own good, you would not wish to quit the sphere in which you have been brought up.”

“In marrying your nephew I should not consider myself as quitting that sphere. He is a gentleman; I am a gentleman’s daughter: so far we are equal.

The latter is, I think, seen most often as a simple statement of sociological fact, even if it leaves out a lot of pragmatic details (and therefore an appropriate answer to Lady Catherine’s reliance on rigid hierarchies). But it is not what Elizabeth herself thought at the beginning of the novel and her relationship with Darcy, and I think her evolution from “too important to look at me” to “technically, we’re equals, so fuck off” is … something. An interesting something!

anghraine: English: a language that lurks in dark alleys, beats up other languages & rifles through their pockets for spare vocab (english)

Poll #29549 Shipping Poll 2a
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Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 15

According to you, which ship is better?

View Answers

Elizabeth Bennet/Fitzwilliam Darcy
11 (73.3%)

Éowyn of Rohan/Faramir (Steward of Gondor)
4 (26.7%)

Poll #1!

Feb. 7th, 2023 11:51 am
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Poll #28424 Shipping Poll 1
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Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 8

According to your flawless judgment, which ship is better?

View Answers

Elizabeth Bennet/Fitzwilliam Darcy
5 (62.5%)

Jyn Erso/Cassian Andor
3 (37.5%)

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I genuinely have no idea who is going to win my Elizabeth/Darcy vs Jyn/Cassian poll on Tumblr, and I'm kind of gleeful about finding out! ALL GLORY TO POLLS.

...wait, I have polls over here, too! I don't know how many people do them, but for the fun of it, I'll post it in a sec. :D
anghraine: elizabeth bennet from "austen's pride," singing her half of "the portrait song" (elizabeth (the portrait song))
anyway

I posted the first chapter of the f/f Elizabeth/Catherine(f!Darcy) fic at AO3. I guess I'm doing this now???
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A fancast/aesthetic post for the f/f Darcy/Elizabeth AU that haunts me, with Simone Ashley as Catherine Darcy (f!Fitzwilliam Darcy) and Daisy Edgar-Jones as Elizabeth Bennet.
anghraine: elizabeth and darcy responding to their engagement in "austen's pride" (darcy and elizabeth (proposal))
One of the things I really enjoy about P&P is how much it emphasizes the difficulty of really understanding other people, and how inadequate our schemas for doing so can be. This is true of lots of literature, of course, but I feel it the most with P&P.

There are a lot of ‘consistent inconsistencies’ in the novel. For instance, at Netherfield it’s asserted that Elizabeth dislikes Darcy too much to care about his opinion of her, but in Elizabeth’s outburst after accepting the truth of the letter, she realizes that she was offended by Darcy’s “neglect” of her the whole time. If you accept the outburst as accurate, it’s going to profoundly shape your view of Elizabeth’s full emotional response to Darcy through the first half of the novel (and sometimes even beyond). If you think she’s exaggerating out of shame and embarrassment, that leads to very different conclusions.

People throw each around as conclusive discussion-enders, but it’s often more the case that a single data point ends all discussion for that person, but the text actually offers many overlapping but not perfectly congruent data points for interpretation. You, as a reader, have to decide the extent to which you accept them and how you’re going to weigh them.

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anghraine: darcy and elizabeth after the second proposal in the 1979 p&p (darcy and elizabeth [proposal])
In response to this, [personal profile] tree said:

and once they start genuinely communicating instead of just inferring, they each contribute to the other’s understanding and GROW. it’s not about reaching a fixed point of perfection; it’s about two people allowing each other to influence and be influenced and becoming better people through that influence. people who make each other better are the best people!

I replied:

Yes! That’s why the post-engagement scenes are so important IMO; while there are some things they don’t say, by and large it’s a time when they start taking their little steps past just assuming they know what the other thinks or feels (I think Darcy gets there earlier, but that’s pretty unsurprising), talking openly with each other and giving us a sense of what they’ll be like as a married couple.

And it’s perhaps significant that the incident that sparks their most dramatic changes is the first proposal/letter—in which, however badly they behave, they just straight-out cut past the bullshit and talk about what they really think and what they really understand of what’s happened around them. It’s then that they’re able to really influence each other for the better, and the novel repeatedly holds out the possibility of continued influence on each other.

And yeah, “it’s not about reaching a fixed point of perfection” is a good way of putting it and one that a lot of critics miss.
anghraine: elizabeth and darcy responding to their engagement in "austen's pride" (darcy and elizabeth (proposal))
More of Elizabeth’s takes on Darcy, from the second half of P&P:

Elizabeth re: Darcy’s feelings at finding her at Pemberley:

Her coming there was the most unfortunate, the most ill-judged thing in the world! How strange must it appear to him! In what a disgraceful light might it not strike so vain a man! It might seem as if she had purposely thrown herself in his way again!

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“I am almost afraid of asking what you thought of me when we met at Pemberley. You blamed me for coming?


Darcy:

I felt nothing but surprise.

Elizabeth re: Darcy’s response to Lydia’s disgrace:

He seemed scarcely to hear her, and was walking up and down the room in earnest meditation, his brow contracted, his air gloomy. Elizabeth soon observed, and instantly understood it. Her power was sinking; everything must sink under such a proof of family weakness, such an assurance of the deepest disgrace.

The reality:

she soon learnt that his resolution of following her from Derbyshire in quest of her sister had been formed before he quitted the inn, and that his gravity and thoughtfulness there had arisen from no other struggles than what such a purpose must comprehend.

Elizabeth re: Darcy’s response to Lydia’s marriage to Wickham:

Had Lydia’s marriage been concluded on the most honourable terms, it was not to be supposed that Mr Darcy would connect himself with a family where, to every other objection, would now be added an alliance and relationship of the nearest kind with the man whom he so justly scorned.

From such a connection she could not wonder that he should shrink. The wish of procuring her regard, which she had assured herself of his feeling in Derbyshire, could not in rational expectation survive such a blow as this.

Darcy:

“If your feelings are still what they were last April, tell me so at once. My affections and wishes are unchanged.

Elizabeth re: Darcy’s response to Lady Catherine’s visit:

it was certain that, in enumerating the miseries of a marriage with one whose immediate connections were so unequal to his own, his aunt would address him on his weakest side. With his notions of dignity, he would probably feel that the arguments which to Elizabeth had appeared weak and ridiculous contained much good sense and solid reasoning.

Darcy:

Lady Catherine’s unjustifiable endeavours to separate us were the means of removing all my doubts. I am not indebted for my present happiness to your eager desire of expressing your gratitude. I was not in a humour to wait for any opening of yours. My aunt’s intelligence had given me hope, and I was determined at once to know everything.

sweetie

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anghraine: photo of a woman with large dark eyes and black hair (vicky papodopoulou) as f!darcy (philadelphia)
An anon asked:

Have you ever played around with gender-swapped Pride & Prejudice?

I replied:

Oh, bless you, haha.

I wrote 36k of f!Darcy/m!Elizabeth here. There are some other fics in the ’verse that you can see if you click on “Series.”

I brainstormed a fully genderbent P&P with [personal profile] tulina and [personal profile] hl, but then couldn’t do my part for personal reasons, so they wrote the whole thing. It’s here.

I also have a f!Darcy/Elizabeth femslash fic in scraps. The longest piece is here [Tumblr link].

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anghraine: darcy and elizabeth after the second proposal in the 1979 p&p (darcy and elizabeth [proposal])
I know it’s not news that I love my OTP, but also, I love my OTP:

Elizabeth:

“What does Mr Darcy mean,” said she to Charlotte, “by listening to my conversation with Colonel Forster?”

“That is a question which Mr Darcy only can answer.”

“But if he does it any more I shall certainly let him know that I see what he is about. He has a very satirical eye, and if I do not begin by being impertinent myself, I shall soon grow afraid of him.”


Darcy:

“Indeed, Mr Darcy, it is very ungenerous in you to mention all that you knew to my disadvantage in Hertfordshire—and, give me leave to say, very impolitic too—for it is provoking me to retaliate, and such things may come out as will shock your relations to hear.”

I am not afraid of you,” said he smilingly.

<3 <3

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