anghraine: a close-up of a man with black eyebrows and grey eyes (dúnadan)
My icon has grey eyes and black hair just for Tolkien :P

So. I generally dislike Tolkien fandom's "canonicity discourse" (yes, I'm doing it anyway) and the idea of imposing a specific ranking of texts. That said, it's occurred to me that one of the reasons I feel deeply out of step with Tolkien fandom is that The Silmarillion (as in, the published book, not the in-story accounts) is on a drastically different level of canonicity for me than basically everything else with JRR Tolkien's name on it.

I don't dislike The Silmarillion or anything. I quite enjoy it! But for me, it shows its age—not in ~a man of his time~ sense, but in an editorial sense. Christopher Tolkien did an enormous amount of spectacular editorial work over the course of his life and we are deeply indebted to him. But I think he did pretty clearly get better at it over time, and particularly at presenting his father's mass of notes and documents and so on in a way that makes the texts as accessible as possible. At the same time, in later texts, he clearly differentiates between actual words JRRT wrote (whether in the main body or in notes) and his (CT's) own understanding and explanations as JRRT's confidant and literary heir. I do give a lot of credence to Christopher Tolkien's understanding of his father's work, actually, and I deeply respect (and am grateful for) CT's efforts to carefully and clearly explain things like dates of composition (and how this can be determined), direct context, how a given point relates to his father's broader work, etc, throughout these texts.

(Tangent: Facebook keeps recommending defensive Jackson stans griping about how Christopher Tolkien just didn't get his father's work like Jackson did and was so horribly ungrateful to the filmmakers and such an inferior scholar blahblah for the crime of disliking the films. FLAMES ON THE SIDE OF MY FACE!! I am not uncritical of Christopher Tolkien, and neither was Christopher Tolkien, but I think we owe an immeasurable debt of gratitude to him. Also, even to me, his response to the films seemed harsh at the time, but at this point, I think he was pretty much right, anyway, and correctly judged the films' impact and reflection of pop culture understanding of JRRT's work.)

So what is my issue with the published Silmarillion?

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anghraine: a letter from the 1790s, written on yellowing paper (letter [1790s])
I normally try to restrain the impulse to dive back into Silmarillion discourse hell, but there’s Eärendil and Elwing wank in my activity bar, and … damn, some people want them to be proto-Aldarion and Erendis so much.

Tagged: #i actually can imagine that aldarion himself /did/ see his relationship with erendis through an eärendil-elwing filter #until it became manifestly obvious that it was in fact radically different #and even then he's like ... the real problem was not having matching lifespans!! #but that's a separate matter

[personal profile] heget responded:

link? (also i wonder how many children of active duty service members might have a different read to what i bet this hot take is)

I replied:

Oh, it’s nothing new (different post, same take as usual), but I was just thinking over it and like … the whole dynamic that gets promoted in these takes seems so much more like Aldarion/Erendis+Ancalimë than Eärendil/Elwing+the twins.
anghraine: a shot of an enormous statue near a mountain from amazon's the rings of power (númenor [meneltarma])
But my memory reaches back even to the Elder Days. Eärendil was my sire, who was born in Gondolin before its fall; and my mother was Elwing, daughter of Dior, son of Lúthien of Doriath.

—Elrond 💖

Tagged: #elrond publicly tracing /elwing's/ family tree to underscore his life and heritage is just ... :') #and that the person he goes back to is lúthien... yesgood

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