anghraine: a man with long black hair and a ring on his hand (faramir [hair])
Still thinking about the Faramir AU, and:

I think the Moria section would wind out in basically the same way, though Gandalf’s death would hit Faramir harder than Boromir.

Faramir canonically has reservations about Lothlórien and Galadriel, so how does that go down? Especially the mental examination bit, which I think would be quite odd for him as someone who is more accustomed to being the person who sees part of what’s going on in the hearts and thoughts of others, and less often the person who is seen. (Though he would certainly have some experience of the latter w/ Denethor.)

What about, you know, the Ring? IIRC it gets stronger the closer it gets to Mount Doom, so the temptation he faced in canon would actually be considerably stronger than what he faces here, but a one-time experience where this is an ongoing, grinding thing. I’ve seen it suggested that he’d still be the weakest link, but I think he could resist it as much as any of the non-hobbits, but that’s still only so far, and his canon response in TTT suggests that he’d understand that.

What ultimately separates the Fellowship? Faramir wouldn’t be going off to take the Ring, so that whole set piece would work differently. I don’t think there’s reason to assume he’d die; him going would make very little overall difference in that case, except to possibly make things worse, and part of the point of him being meant to go is that it would make a significant difference, for the better. I think my idea in the original Faramir-goes-to-Rivendell fic I wrote as a teenager was that he perceives more clearly than the others that the Fellowship can’t hold out indefinitely, and privately tells Frodo so. Frodo then decides to go alone. These days … hmm.

Does Faramir join the hunt for Merry and Pippin, assuming that that pretty much follows canon? He’d want to get back to Gondor, but I think he’d always do what he considers the ethical thing, so it’s not hard to imagine him joining them. He’s also a Ranger and very tall; I don’t think he’d hold them back speed-wise. So that would go pretty similarly.

And then, Rohan!
anghraine: a man with long black hair and a ring on his hand (faramir [hair])
Still thinking of how Denethor and Faramir are explicitly compared with Gandalf  … and even Gandalf describes himself and Denethor as ‘two … terrible old men’ … and in Faramir’s case, his wizardliness is by contrast to Frodo’s Elvishness …

I just. They.

Tagged: #adkjf sam doesn't even know he's saying 'frodo is elvish but you have a maia vibe' but HE IS and it's just ????!!! #look. gandalf's powers may be dialed down from olórin's but he is still a freaking maia #and gandalf lumping himself in with denethor??? i am compromised
anghraine: a shot of an enormous statue near a mountain from amazon's the rings of power (númenor [meneltarma])
[personal profile] heckofabecca responded to this post:

what do you mean, it doesn’t make sense???

I replied:

Well, there’s a basic quandary that Tolkien wrangled with:

1. Sindarin is used conversationally in Gondor.

2. Gondorian Sindarin is largely unchanged from classic Sindarin.

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anghraine: a man with long black hair and a ring on his hand (faramir [hair])
I’ve seen some fairly elaborate theories for why Faramir’s representation of Boromir in TTT seems fairly negative. And they’re fine and all, but I think they do tend to ignore two important things:

- Faramir is trying to extract information about how Boromir died from people potentially involved in his death

- Faramir is explicitly said to have believed that Boromir was the best!! ever!!!!!

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anghraine: the symbol of gondor: a white tree on a black field with seven stones and a crown (gondor)
I reblogged this post I made in Nov 2013:

Little Estel growing up in a place where no one dies or ages or changes, ever, except him

Estel is Aragorn and it fills his heart with pride and then he falls madly in love with the most unattainable woman on the planet and it means his own grief or breaking up his family eternally

Young Aragorn returns to his people, who he doesn’t actually know, and has to become a Dúnadan of the North, the Dúnadan, when he’s only ever been a not-quite-Elf. His mother dies.

Aragorn wanders all over the globe. At one point he goes to Gondor, the country of which he has to gain kingship at some undetermined point in the future. The Steward’s heir is one year older than he is, looks as much like an ancient Númenórean as he does—looks like his brother, if he had one—and has ancient Númenórean powers to go with his height and face, just like Aragorn. Denethor hates him and Aragorn has to walk carefully around him. He leaves when Denethor’s son, Boromir, is three.

Boromir shows up out of nowhere while Frodo is recovering in Rivendell. Little Boromir is now forty, a massive and supremely skilled warrior. He’s instantly suspicious of Aragorn. But they forge a relationship of mutual respect and perhaps even friendship through their assorted tribulations, yay!

Boromir, who Aragorn remembers as a toddler, dies in his arms.

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anghraine: artist's rendition of faramir; text: i would not take this thing if it lay by the highway (faramir)
Somewhere in my head there’s a longer post about this, but I feel that something overlooked about (bookverse) Faramir’s lines in TTT is that they are emerging from a very specific, very tense context.

It’s not that he doesn’t mean what he says. But ultimately he’s gathering information. He isn’t being friendly just because he’s nice. He’s being friendly because he’s trying to set Frodo and Sam at ease in order to find out (through various means) what’s going on now and what went on with the Fellowship.

Faramir is pleasant, and he rambles on about Gondorian history and his general philosophies in the middle of a warzone, and he freely acknowledges his people’s past and present weaknesses, and he chats about customs and Elves with Frodo and Sam, and he’s deciding whether to kill them or not.

What he says is true, but there’s purpose to what truths he chooses to tell.

Meanwhile, on Frodo and Sam’s side, their lives hang on what they say. I know some people feel the tension drops out in these scenes, but I’ve always felt that it actually rises—all the more with the contrast between Faramir’s manner and the threat he poses, right up until the moment that he refuses the Ring.
anghraine: the symbol of gondor: a white tree on a black field with seven stones and a crown (gondor)
I'll probably post some May posts separately, since I swerved pretty hard back into LOTR fandom last month, but the first chunk of run-of-the-mill ones:

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anghraine: artist's rendition of faramir; text: i would not take this thing if it lay by the highway (faramir)
Every time I see someone defend the monochrome casting of Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit it’s just so obnoxious and irrational and, obviously, super racist.

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anghraine: vader extending his lightsaber; text: and now for the airing of grievances! (lady susan)
I've been pondering fantastic!evil for awhile, and finally collected my meandering thoughts together in a ... um, essay may be putting it strongly, but at least a post. I mostly just ended up confusing myself, but here it is.

The One Ring and the Dark Side (aka, the Problem of Evil)

evil thoughts... )

Day 11: What is your favourite weapon?

Um... )

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