Anghraine

An anon on Tumblr said:

First of all congrats on nearing the end of your PhD program!!! Woohoo!!!

Second of all, I’m muy late to the party here (been off tumblr for a bit) but WRT these tags ( https://www.tumblr.com/anghraine/749212904253947904/khazzman-tolkien-elendil-was-called-the ) what do you mean the pregnancies were strange lol how strange can they be…?

[The tags in question: #and that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of how distinct and peculiar númenóreans are #fandom has slept on it for decades but they are reallyyyyyy unusual #they have weird pregnancies (and few of them) and horse telepathy and can rarely even get injured much less sick #there's this part where tolkien is trying to mathematically figure out elvish aging (hilarious tbh) and pencils in 'and númenóreans' #that's not even getting into the uncanny valley of númenórean kids...]

My reply:

As for the first point: Thank you! I'm really looking forwards to being done, lol.

As for the second point: anon, I delight in your innocence.

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vardasvapors on Tumblr asked:

WAIT I FIGURED ONE OUT. One of your Tindomiel posts inspired me: do you have ideas about Elros's wife? (Imo one of the most wtf occurrences of unnamed women.) As a person, founding queen, wife, mother, sister-in-law, or whatever, any of the facets.

I replied:

I agree! It is definitely one of the most ????? omissions, and when it comes to Númenórean women, that’s saying a lot.

Rambling a bit:

I generally prefer to wiggle around canon rather than rejecting the unpleasant aspects of it, so I start with the fact that her absence is baffling. What might have kept her out of the historical record? Even a partial, male-dominated historical record?

Well, one possibility is that she had a normal lifespan, which in the historical view would make her… kind of a blip in Elros’ half a millennium of life. If so, Elros almost certainly married her well after establishing Númenor (SA 32), since their firstborn child was born twenty-nine years later (SA 61). In fact, it’s very possible that she herself was born on Númenor (though in that case, she could have a longer lifespan).

I also tend to assume she wasn’t that politically prominent (more Laura than Hillary, say—not that a US First Lady is like a Queen of Númenor, but you get the idea). I don’t just mean in terms of her own conduct, but her family. We do occasionally hear something when the queen’s family is notable: Almarian’s father was captain of the ships, Erendis’ was a descendant of the lords of the house of Bëor, Inzilbêth was the Lord of Andúnië’s niece. So I’m thinking that her own background was not particularly exceptional.

Another detail I find interesting is her four children’s names. One is clearly named after Elros’ family (Tindómiel, the ‘morning star,’ obviously refers to Eärendil). One seems a vaguer reference to the Edain. But the other two, including the firstborn son, are named for the Valar. Considering that one or both of the other children are connected to Elros, I kind of like the idea that she was the one behind Vardamir and Manwendil. So I’m envisioning her as an intense devotee of the Valar, particularly Elbereth (it is the firstborn named for Elbereth, the third for Manwë).

Also for consideration: her eldest, Vardamir, was a dedicated scholar with zero interest in politics. He took the name Nolimon, something like ‘loremaster.’ That doesn’t necessarily reflect on his mother, but it’s something to consider, particularly given her apparent obscurity.

So: I tend to envision her as a bookish type like her son, and also like him, largely disinterested in public life. Originally, she could be a wise-woman à la Adanel—odds are that she’s also Hadorian. She’s a dedicated scholar and profoundly devout in her veneration of the Valar, particularly Elbereth.

[Note: cross-posting this out of sequence because I seem to have missed it earlier and a later post references it]

I love the Tindómiel/Undómiel thing not only because Elrond names his only daughter to match Elros’s only daughter (though I do).

And I love it not only because the two names act as counterparts in terms of their relationships to their people: the morning star of Númenor, the evenstar of the Elves (though I do).

I also really, really love it because the morning star and the evening star are the same star: Eärendil.

Tagged: #they named their daughters for their dad :') #and i think it's legit interesting to see priorities there? #in naming i mean #like #2/3 of elrond's kids are named in the sinda family pattern #from elwing #while elros just went all out and named two of his for the valar #his firstborn is named for elbereth!! which seems a very elvish (and esp sindarin) sort of thing #they both have a reference to men in some of the names #but elrond does it with his firstborn kids while elros doesn't until the ... fourth iirc? #again: not what you'd assume! #but the daughters get the Peak Symbolism and that's as eärendil's heiresses #:)))))))))))

Another regularly-scheduled reminder about names:

1. Elladan and Elrohir both refer to the family’s mixed Elvish-human heritage
2. Elrohir is in Dúnadan rather than Elvish Sindarin
3. Elladan specifically means “Elf-Númenórean”
4. Undómiel references the name of Elrond’s Númenórean niece, Tindómiel

I’m just saying

We know next to nothing about Tindómiel, and yet … <3 <3 <3

[ETA 11/8/2021: Tindómiel is Elros's daughter and Elrond's only immediate niece.]

tagged: #arwen's name echoing hers is about it #but #!!!!!!!! #so many headcanons y'all

[Arwen's name Undómiel refers to the star of evening twilight, the Evenstar, while tindóme is "morning twilight," making Tindómiel the Morning star. These are, of course, the same star—and moreover, it is literally their grandfather Eärendil on his journey with the Silmaril.]

This post ended up being deeply frustrating, because it got a response that was so inane I didn't even bother arguing with it, but that person turned out to have enough followers that it just kept getting reblogged with their Elven superiority nonsense. So most of the 200+ notes on Tumblr are just ... that. I still stand by my original post, though!

An anon on Tumblr asked:

I only just realized now, after like a bazillion years, that while Elrond is referred to as the lord of Imladris, he is never referred to as Lord Elrond (not in Of the Rings of Power in the Silm either), only as Master Elrond. So if "lord" is a correct description of his position, why such a modest title? IDK I thought I'd go to you with these thoughts to see if you want to make anything more of them, bc you have written some other thoughtful thoughts in this vein before.

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